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Spoilerful question about the trilogy's end posted 27 Jan 2006, 01:01 by Cythraul, Commoner

This is an EXCEEDINGLY SPOILERFUL discussion of THE ENDING. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The short of this post is that the ending of [i:33gna11v]The Thousandfold Thought[/i:33gna11v] left me dissatisfied and unhappy, yet I'm presuming to use 'Scott'. My intent is to avoid the cold distance of 'Mr. Bakker'. I loved the books, and I loved Scott's writing, but the ending bothered me. On the one hand, I never got the sense that Scott was particularly interested in leaving his audience happy. Thrilled, terrified, excited, and breathless, but not [i:33gna11v]happy[/i:33gna11v]. On the other... at the same time, without contradiction... I somehow grew convinced that the darkness was only to brighten the dawn. But, no - in the end, we achieved nothing of worth. The apparent best hope for Earwa sits at the peak of his power, and seems well on track to unite all men under his banner. But I never found myself caring about Earwa. I realise Scott must care about Earwa, or he wouldn't have spent [i:33gna11v]decades[/i:33gna11v] writing there, but it didn't come through in the books, for me. I found it to be a horrible place full of horrible people. (I would concede that the real world is also a horrible place full of horrible people, but I'd contend that it's also a wonderful place full of wonderful people - if that latter is true of Earwa, then we never saw it.) So, seeing Kellhus victorious to save it is a lot to swallow. In the end, I didn't care about Earwa, I cared about Achamian. To my mind, he, and no other, was the hero of the story. I have a sneaking suspicion that you would consider Achamian regaining Esmenet to be a cheap and easy ending, and consider his final renunciation of her as a more profound victory - a liberation. I'm conjecturing here, of course. But if that's all he gained, then, over the course of the trilogy, he gained nothing. At the start, he didn't have her. In the end, he has neither her nor himself. And, given the hate that Achamian himself mentions in the final [i:33gna11v]Compendium[/i:33gna11v] excerpt, I doubt he'd disagree with me. What's more, it seemed like the reward of Esmenet was dangled in front of us. To have Esmenet leave with Achamian during that final scene would have been glorious - even audacious. It had been set up earlier - Esmenet seemed, at last, to be free of Kellhus's spell. She [i:33gna11v]feared[/i:33gna11v] to leave him, but in a final scene you're allowed more leeway with your panache - it would have been perfectly reasonable, to my mind, for her to walk out with him. And, so, ultimately, my question is 'why?' Why keep Esmenet from Achamian? Scott's said that [i:33gna11v]The Aspect-Emperor[/i:33gna11v] will be set many years after the trilogy. Do I dare hope that both will still be alive, and that Scott will show more mercy with us regarding them? "You're an angry fan with an unjustified sense of entitlement, and no answer will satisfy you," would be a reasonable response, and I'd not be offended. But I don't believe that's the case. If there are angles I've missed, nuances I'm overlooking, then I'd be happy to listen. view post

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