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Some questions about the moon,witches and the Inchoroi. posted 17 Feb 2006, 01:02 by Linnea, Candidate

Hello, Scott and everyone else on the board (especially the nice people who posted about the PoN on the ASOIAF-messageboard,making me aware of it`s existence). I have managed to get my hands on and read tDTCB and tWP and now, having only spoilers from this board to help me pass the time until I get tTT,half a year after everyone else probably ,the price I pay for living in Sweden and not the wonderful country of Canada where people actually get to meet Scott and talk to him and post about it on messageboards and...well,nevermind,I thought I might ask some questions that I have been pondering,so; 1.Does Earwa have a moon?I can`t really remember any reference to one but I might simply have missed it. 2.As I understand it,the Consult /Inchoroi have enough understadig of genetics etc. to create the skinspies so wouldn`t they also have the ability to create say,a highly contagious disease,spread it and lean back and wait for it to do the job?Even if some humans are likely to survive the Consult would be very much closer to their goal and have an easier time finishing off the rest,especially since the sorcery in Earwa doesn`t seem to be used to/be able to heal people and the earwians certainly doesn`t have any deep knowledge of combating disease. 3.A continuation of the second question,why don`t the surviving Inchoroi create more of their kind?It`s unclear to me if they actually have any gender in their original forms or how they reproduce, but as long as they have the genetic material couldn`t they use the Tekne and create some "mini-inchoroi"?Or do they prefer to be the only ones of their kind?How do they percieve each other?Aurang refers to the other surviving Inchoroi as his brother, so it would seem that they have a concept of kinship,but do they like to err,spend time together? Did they try to create an Inchoroi-Nonman hybrid?What about an Inchoroi-Human one?I was thinking of their habit of hmm, practicing safe sex.It seems a bit unnecessary,at least for the one at the end of tWP,unless they are taking a moral stand or something. :shock: 4.Since there are no sorceresses in Earwa,only witches,I was wondering.what is their magic like?Is it anagogic or something else?What do sorcerers think about them?When Leweth speaks about them he says that they"harness the wild agencies asleep in earth,animal and tree."That seems quite different from the sorcery we have seen so far.I`m also curious about Akka`s "witch-doll".Is this something similar to what the Consult use to make the synthese?Would it be possible to bind a soul to acorpse or an animal ?Would the soul be able to exert any influence over it`new "home"?Did Seswatha bind his soul to the Mandate school in some way?And if the Ciphrang are in posession of the souls of the dead, could you summon one and have it "hand a soul over" as it were? 4.And finally,what is Conphas┬┤ haircolour?(Poor Conphas,I`ll miss him,he`s like the Sansa Stark of the Three-seas :cry:) Well,thank you for your time and I hope my Enlish isn`t to difficult to uderstand (or badly spelled). view post


posted 17 Feb 2006, 02:02 by Mog-Pharau, Peralogue

Yes, there are some references to moonlight, but you're right, it doesn't make a big impact on anyone. Regarding why the Inchoroi don't just manufacture a disease...good question. view post


posted 17 Feb 2006, 04:02 by H, Auditor

We were pretty sure that the Nail of Heaven was the moon. As for the rest...well, i'm not sure that it would be possible to merge the Inchoroi gnome with the human or nonman one. Since they are from an entirely different planet, i doubt they have much, if anything, in common. view post


posted 17 Feb 2006, 04:02 by Mog-Pharau, Peralogue

I thought that the concensus was that the Nail of Heaven was a pole star. At least, that's what I think about it. :) I don't find it hard to believe that the Inchoroi would be able to blend genomes, as we have already done the same. They can certainly either tinker with them or build them from scratch, witness the creation of the skin-spies. On the other hand, once they crashed on Earwa, they were pretty much stuck with whatever they had on the Ark, so possibly they lost much of their technology and weren't able to recover it thanks to the primitive state of Earwan science. view post


posted 17 Feb 2006, 05:02 by rycanada, Peralogue

Yeah, consensus was Nail of Heaven = Pole Star (like the North Star) view post


posted 17 Feb 2006, 16:02 by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

Welcome to the board, Linnea! I hope you understand if my responses are somewhat abbreviated. It seems like this week has been even busier than last! Yes, Earwa does have a moon. And yes, the Nail of Heaven is an especially bright pole star. Regarding biological warfare, the suggestion is that the Inchoroi have long ago ceased understanding their own technology. This is a function of their moribund state as well as their immortality. The idea is that they've inherited an arsenal from their past, much of it damaged, and that those genomic weapons they do get off the ground, are the result of centuries of blind tinkering, cannibalizing, and scrounging. The Womb-Plague (see the Cuno-Inchoroi Wars in TTT), for instance, is an example of an ad hoc microbial weapon. This I think, applies to your following Inchoroi questions as well. As for witchcraft, this issue does come up later. The most I'll say is that it's an informal 'folkloric' form of the Anagogis. As Ketyai, Conphas would have dark hair - and if it's any consolation, I miss him too! I simply loved writing him. view post


posted 17 Feb 2006, 16:02 by H, Auditor

[quote="rycanada":1sdr0rov]Yeah, consensus was Nail of Heaven = Pole Star (like the North Star)[/quote:1sdr0rov] I'm an idiot, i even said in that other thread that it was the pole star. Doh. view post


posted 18 Feb 2006, 00:02 by Linnea, Candidate

Hi again, Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions everyone.I thought the Consult were showing some "gaps" in knowledge and the reason is interesting.I find the Inchoroi fascinating and was impressed with Scott`s ability to depict them. Despite Aurang appearing as a man when visiting Esmi he [felt] quite alien,as if not quite human impulses and thoughts were expressed through a human form.Not only that something human was lacking but that something "other" was present,if that makes any sense. One of the things that interested me about the PoN in the first place was the blend of sf and fantasy elements. I feel that it diffuses the nature of Earwa and creates a greater ucertainty about the "paradigm of thought" that it`s built upon. Some ideas seem more often expressed in sf than fantasy and vice versa so it`s nice to see them interact(even though I have to come to this board and read people`s discussions to understand what the interacting ideas actually are) :? . As for Conphas,that`s just the price you have to pay for writing good books Scott! And I still have Akka and Iyokus to cheer on in tAP, though judging from the spoilers I read, probably not at the same time :) . view post


posted 28 Feb 2006, 14:02 by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

I actually received quite abit of resistance to the notion that the Inchoroi were a technological species. Some of my prepub readers thought it was a BIG mistake, but it was part of the plan from the very beginning. And so far, I think I've encountered complaints about everything [i:3dtc9y4z]but[/i:3dtc9y4z]! view post


posted 26 Jun 2006, 16:06 by Mahajanga Mordecai, Auditor

I always assumed it was before. Their "falling from the black" as Aurang put it, didn't strike me as intentional. view post


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