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wow just finished reading it last night posted 09 Aug 2006, 20:08 by noodles0585, Peralogue

this book was really good but someone please tell me it doesn't end like that. aside from that achamian is a ballsy bad ass dude i mean after defeating yet another demon comes back from the dead one more time and then forsakes his wife, school, and prophet in front of the entire holy war and then some i can't wait for the follow up thats got to be out of this world especially after that. i am at a loss for words when it comes to this series the only thing that i hope is that bakker neither ends it too early or too late. anyone else agree or disagree with me? view post


posted 09 Aug 2006, 21:08 by Mahajanga Mordecai, Auditor

I love your enthusiasm. It reminds me of the way I felt after I finished the book. I'm sure we can trust Scott to do justice to the first trilogy by making the second just as... extraordinary! And a big whoop to Akka for kicking that second Ciphrang's butt! If you ask me, there's no better way to train for the war against Tsurumah than by having to battle a couple of uber-powered Ciphrang from time to time! view post


posted 10 Aug 2006, 03:08 by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

[quote:3lwnveat]And a big whoop to Akka for kicking that second Ciphrang's butt! If you ask me, there's no better way to train for the war against Tsurumah than by having to battle a couple of uber-powered Ciphrang from time to time![/quote:3lwnveat] You guys do realiize in the end Akka got his ass kicked by the Ciphrang whether or not it was because of his obliterating of the Nansur Im not sure but he still lost. view post


posted 10 Aug 2006, 14:08 by Mahajanga Mordecai, Auditor

I suppose you're right but let's see how it panned out. Akka still has the use of all his limbs (albeit injured limbs) and the ability to work sorcery and live out his life freely. The Ciphrang, on the other hand, is dead. This battle reminds me of Cnaiur's first Scylvendi test to go and kill a wolf. He succeeded, but you will recall that he was all bent out of shape over the fact that nothing happened as it should. Moenghus basically told him that regardless of how things went, the goal was acheived; he killed the wolf. So Akka got his butt kicked, who cares! He's alive and the Ciphrang is dead. Besides it's not like the Ciphrang had a landslide victory, he only lived long enough to exult in Akka's unconscious state. HE, on the other hand, DIED immediately after. So when you look at the big picture, who lost? view post


posted 10 Aug 2006, 17:08 by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

Both And if you really want to get down to the big picture Iyokus won. view post


posted 10 Aug 2006, 19:08 by Mahajanga Mordecai, Auditor

Well if you want to get down to the BIG picture... Seswatha won. The Gnosis has been shared in ample time for the war, he's found a new vehicle in which to move through Earwa - (Akka), and the world will be prepared for the Consult this time without all the haggling he went through the first time because of his deeds and sacrifice. view post


posted 11 Aug 2006, 04:08 by Warrior-Poet, Moderator

Well if you want to get to the [b:15ewopxw]BIG[/b:15ewopxw] picture humanity won. view post


posted 11 Aug 2006, 12:08 by Deornoth, Candidate

That last post was mine! :evil: Damn computer not logging me on properly... view post


posted 11 Aug 2006, 16:08 by Mahajanga Mordecai, Auditor

It is my (wishful) presumption that the new version of the dreams are only seen by Akka. It is my thought that Kellhus would be able to infer its' meaning if the other Mandati were having them and that would ruin the surprise. That's what I meant by that statement. If my assumption proves correct, Akka is Seswatha's last true disciple/student. view post


posted 11 Aug 2006, 20:08 by Harrol, Moderator

It is my (wishful) presumption that the new version of the dreams are only seen by Akka. It is my thought that Kellhus would be able to infer its' meaning if the other Mandati were having them and that would ruin the surprise. That's what I meant by that statement. If my assumption proves correct, Akka is Seswatha's last true disciple/student. I believe that you are correct in this. i believe it will add a whole new twist to AE. view post


posted 11 Aug 2006, 20:08 by Murrin, Peralogue

I have similar thoughts on it. I believe that whatever Seswatha did when he passed on his memories, he altered them to make sure they had the effect he wanted, or perhaps because the implications of what he had seen frightened even him. If Kellhus removed one barrier in Akka, perhaps he removed them all. view post


posted 14 Aug 2006, 12:08 by Mahajanga Mordecai, Auditor

Thing is, I don't think he removed any barriers on purpose. In fact I'm not certain he removed any at all. There could be another reason Akka's dreams (or at least that one) are changing. Though it does seem most likely that Kellhus's little meeting with Sessa may have created a portal to the Outside by which Seswatha can work through Achamian. On the other hand, I think Scott is trying to go in a different direction. He's hinted at it enough times now. I think he intends for Akka to go [i:xunwr3n3]beyond[/i:xunwr3n3] Seswatha. Which, necessarily, nullifies the likelihood of my assumption. Who knows. view post


posted 14 Aug 2006, 22:08 by noodles0585, Peralogue

as far as scott having akka go beyond seswatha i can't say. maybe but my opinion is that with the second coming of the apoclaypse there are roles that were previously played by seswatha and with him and many others dead those roles must be fulfilled by others such as achamian filling the role of the sorcerer out to save humanity no matter what the cost. and kellhus is to fulfill the role as anasurimbor celmomas as the high the king of the ancient north leading his armies against the consult. now granted this is two thousand years after the first war and the rules have changed along with circumstances but i feel that this is simply history repeating it self again. my question is if the non-erratic nonmen will play a role and if so how much of an impact will they have on the victory/defeat of humanity over the the consult. view post


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