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Couple of questions after a reread posted 19 Jun 2004, 14:06 by Replay, Auditor

First off, just want to say that i probably enjoyed the book even more on the reread. And I have always felt that the reread is the test of a good book. Perhaps the thing is that on the second time through you already know what will happen, so have no expectations. I know the first time that i read it, I did feel it took a bit too long for Kellhus to show up again, and perhaps this did spoil my enjoyment of the other characters a little. On the reread though, this was not a problem. There were still a couple of things i wasn't all that keen on (specifically character based), but i think they mainly come down to personal preference. Other than that I thought the book was outstanding, especially the interaction between characters such as Kellhus and Cnaiur. Anyway on to my questions. The first is, did the Dunyain have any dealings at all with people from the outside (such as for trade)? The reason i ask is because if they have not, it seems strange that they spend so much time learning to read peoples faces. Unless of course not all of them undergo such training to mask their own. The second is that it would be interesting to know what sources you drew on whilst writing the Kellhus flashback scenes. Or was it more from personal experience? Either way i thought you handled the scene extremely well, and were fairly accurate it what it is like. It was certianly one of my favourite parts of the book. view post


posted 19 Jun 2004, 21:06 by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Replay (and Scott), do the dunyain learn to read people's faces or is it just something they are able to do because of their study of anatomy and their own suppression of feelings? It may be a by-product of study. view post


posted 20 Jun 2004, 12:06 by Replay, Auditor

Well that is certainly possible. Deep down people are not all that different, and once someone begins to understand who [i:2bscl40p]they[/i:2bscl40p] are, then they also begin to understand others extremely well (and often much better than the others understand themselves, much like Scott depicted in the book). There are also the children there who the Dunyain seem to have problem reading, and i guess a lot could come from that. I just found it a little strange they would spend so much time on it, that was all. But i expect that is just me nitpicking :) view post


posted 23 Jun 2004, 13:06 by Cu'jara Cinmoi, Author of Prince of Nothing

Always such a bloody mincer, Replay! :wink: Fair questions, all. As for the why the Dunyain would spend so much time with faces when they're utterly isolated (and they are - almost), the issue is indirectly broached in TWP - chapter sixteen, I think. Otherwise, I would point to Kellhus's surprise in the Prologue, when he meets Leweth for the first time. The idea is that the Dunyain have developed this skill for training purposes (to root out passion, one must be able to detect it). The fact that it translates into the ability to dominate of world-born men is simply a happy coincidence (or as you say, Jack, a byproduct). On the other side there is the strange feedback that occurs between emotion and displays of emotion - as evinced by those 'laughing classes' that seem to be sweeping the world. The idea here is that by mastering the display of the emotion (which is under your self-conscious control), you gain some measure of control over the emotion itself. The Dunyain are fond of control. The form of the Kellhus flashback scenes ultimately comes from my days smoking fatties and watching Kung Fu with my grandmother, back when I was fourteen... How I loved that show. view post


posted 24 Jun 2004, 22:06 by LooseCannon, Peralogue

Wow, you smoked weed with your Grandma?! Well you did say you were of Dutch descent ;). view post


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