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Gollancz S.F. posted 04 May 2007, 12:05 by Sokar, Auditor

Has anyone read anything from this author..? I got it as a suggestion from Amazon for buying the TFT there..then again..Amazon would suggest a lot of things don't fit... And I don't really trust the reviews there either... Besides that point..i've never heard of this author... So if anyone read him..in how far can I compare him to Scott Bakker..? view post


posted 10 May 2007, 03:05 by duckman, Commoner

Gollancz SF is the science fiction and fantasy imprint of the Orion Publishing Group in the UK and not an actual author. It looks like it was just a mistake on Amazon's part. view post


posted 10 May 2007, 14:05 by Sokar, Auditor

Oh..i've looked at it again and you are right..a mistake from my part... It a triology (of course) with titles: "The Blade Itself", "Before They Are Hanged" and "Last Argument of Kings" (supposed to appear in March 2008). Rather new athour Joe Abercrombie. view post


posted 10 May 2007, 20:05 by Randal, Auditor

Haven't read Abercromby yet, but I'm going to. I've heard lots of good things about him. Plus, he's part of the "mock Goodkind" secret society, which is a plus in any case. [quote:2b0n6ccb]Joe Abercromby wrote: I cannot speak for Scott Lynch, but I can state CATEGORICALLY that [b:2b0n6ccb]my [/b:2b0n6ccb]books have [b:2b0n6ccb]nothing [/b:2b0n6ccb]to do with fantasy, but are, rather, high-brow literary novels with important socio-political points to make. They merely happen to include magic, barbarians, mysterious wizards, mysterious journeys, lots of swords, and even the odd slinky sorceress, all happening in an imaginary place that I made up. Cliches? Archetypes? Stereotypes? No. These are the [b:2b0n6ccb]instruments I use to investigate the universality of the human condition[/b:2b0n6ccb]. [/quote:2b0n6ccb] (from the Westeros messageboard.) view post


posted 11 May 2007, 13:05 by Sokar, Auditor

Hmm..perhaps I should take a look at him then..especially that secret "mock Goodkind" society seems very appealing... The only down part is that I will have to wait another year to read the 3rd book..just as with PoN... view post


posted 11 May 2007, 13:05 by Randal, Auditor

Just bought it. It begins with the chapter titled "The End." I'll post my thoughts later. view post


posted 13 May 2007, 17:05 by Randal, Auditor

Just finished "the blade itself." Entertaining, well written, well characterised, interesting enough setting. Good? Definitely. Very good. But not excellent. Unlike Bakker, there's nothing particularly innovative in here. Nothing that makes you think. No really new concepts. And taken as a story, it's not quite as good or quite as vividly painted as, say, George R.R. Martin's work. Nor is it as funny and fresh and witty as Scott Lynch's Lies of Locke Lamora, to name another celebrated new writer. Plus, it suffers a bit from "this is a fantasy series, and after 500 pages the plot is just about ready to get started." (though to be fair, the same could be said for The Darkness that Comes Before) All in all, I do recommend it. It's fun, and I definitely don't consider my money wasted. In fact, I'll probably go buy the second book tomorrow. But it won't be making my top 100 list, I think. view post


posted 14 May 2007, 13:05 by Sokar, Auditor

Just above you posted that quote of Abercromby..is that quote at least partially true..? Does he indeed make [b:1136o5jz]important[/b:1136o5jz] socio-political points..or explore the universality of the human condition..? view post


posted 14 May 2007, 19:05 by Randal, Auditor

It's a real quote, but it's a joke... like I said in my post, it's a mockery of certain other writers who take themselves too seriously. No sane writer would claim his work is important in this way. Seriously. Would he use the term "high brow" if he meant it? As for the books, like I said in my reviewish post above, "it has nothing to really make you think." Fun, well done, but no, he does not make important socio-political points or attempts to. The best description would be from one of the reviews I read: an 80s style traditional fantasy story, only told through cynical postmodern eyes. (To which I would add: with better characters.) view post


posted 15 May 2007, 12:05 by Sokar, Auditor

Being interested in politics and philosophy..even in romans!..i guess it's useless... Amazon.sucks! view post


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