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Zeitgeist posted 21 Jul 2007, 06:07 by Madness, Peralogue

[url:v8e9in7g][/url:v8e9in7g] Watch it. Ponder it. Comment. view post

posted 23 Jul 2007, 08:07 by avatar_of_existence, Peralogue

A friend had me watch it a few weeks ago on Google Video. Like an updated more elaborate version of Loose Change. I liked it, detailed and well documented, though it would interrupt the flow of the movie I wish they would cite sources or add a bibliography. view post

Re: Zeitgeist posted 18 Sep 2008, 15:09 by luciferi, Candidate

I agree that there definitely was not a lot of citing going on. That really took away from the whole point of it. However the film was well done and well put together. There was some good points it had, but a lot of it was bs as well. One thing that I liked was when it talked about the PATRIOT Act. I do not agree with this act because it takes away our rights as people. view post

Re: Zeitgeist posted 18 Sep 2008, 18:09 by ThePrinceofNothing, Candidate

The whole deal about the North American Union is untrue. It wasn't signed, and it's really not as bad as that movie makes it out to be. view post

Re: Zeitgeist posted 18 Sep 2008, 22:09 by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="ThePrinceofNothing":s0ceszgn]The whole deal about the North American Union is untrue. It wasn't signed, and it's really not as bad as that movie makes it out to be.[/quote:s0ceszgn] The North American gov't hasn't exactly come about yet, but the steps towards the superstate integration began with NAFTA and its tribunal systems and, its most recent steps, is with the Security and Prosperity Partnership. The next major steps towards integration are with the NAFTA superhighway and the adoption of a new currency to replace the 3 countries currencies, named the [i:s0ceszgn]Amero[/i:s0ceszgn]. The European Union took many decades to come forth (and its still not fully functioning). So will the North American Union. Its only a matter of time or resistance. As for Zeitgeist: [quote="luciferi":s0ceszgn] There was some good points it had, but a lot of it was bs as well.[/quote:s0ceszgn] Like the downright utter stinky smelly sloppy bs about the similarities between Jesus and Horus. When you create a documentary movie about modern politics and begin it with incorrect garbage about religions or faiths or ancient stories, or anything to do with slandering and debunking Jesus, its best to be extremely skeptical about the entire film. What's the real agenda of the movie? To educate you about politics? Or to stimulate doubt in you about a particular faith? Imho, the maker of the movie is a lying turd, someone never to be trusted. Sure there's true points, but the majority of it is layered in diarrhea. :x Be vigilant towards these kinds of documentaries. view post

Re: Zeitgeist posted 20 Mar 2009, 11:03 by avatar_of_existence, Peralogue

After conducting barely any research I've come to the same conclusions as Cnaiur, most of what the movie says isn't true at all. Flat out lies. At least the beginning. There are way less similarities than they make out. Are you a Christian Cnaiur? I'm not gonna judge or be all preachy if you are, my best friends are all christians and I wish I could believe too. Just curious. Another thing, I think that when documentaries of this kind come about it's sad to see the truth co-opted by propaganda and I thought that was what the maker was trying to combat so it's sorta heart-breaking to learn that the engage in it as much as they condemn it. view post

Re: Zeitgeist posted 14 Jun 2009, 18:06 by luciferi, Candidate

Yeah I kind of felt the same way about "Religulous" by Bill Maher. He says the reason for his film is to get closet atheists to step out and the main point is that he really wants to find out and is curious about what other people think. What a load of horsecrap. The whole movie he doesn't let the other people talk and just makes fun of everything as much as possible. He doesn't care what other people think and doesn't what to "find out". He is already set in his mind and just wanted to make other people doubt what they believe in. view post

Re: Zeitgeist posted 23 Jun 2009, 18:06 by Cnaiür, Peralogue

[quote="avatar_of_existence":2ujrtgy3]Are you a Christian Cnaiur? I'm not gonna judge or be all preachy if you are, my best friends are all christians and I wish I could believe too. Just curious. [/quote:2ujrtgy3] Yes, I consider myself of Christian faith, with an open mind towards new (old) age/spirituality. I consider Jesus to be an extraordinary [i:2ujrtgy3]man[/i:2ujrtgy3], who had some incredibly profound lessons to teach us: peace and kindness, love and forgiveness, and gratitude, with a specific focus on gratitude and forgiveness. I can only speak for myself here, so I will... I believe intensely that these lessons Jesus taught people to live by are the best and most appropriate ways to live/be if you wish to spiritually evolve in the whole cosmic scope of life. Otherwise, you're just going to come back to this level/stage/dimension of life to try all over again. I find myself being insulted when others try to debunk Jesus as a figment of the imagination, especially when the debunking is being propagated on a large scale, like movies and documentaries. By instilling this into people's minds people will most likely turn a blind eye to Jesus, thereby, never allowing themselves the opportunity to learn about who he was nor the lessons he taught. With Zeitgeist, that subversive idiot tried to debunk Jesus by comparing him to the Egyptian legend of Horus. Almost every point he made to compare the two was false. Just this alone classifies Zeitgeist as a movie (fiction), not a documentary (non-fiction). I've noticed throughout all my life that there have been numerous attempts, methods, agendas to debunk and/or pervert Jesus. Unfortunately, people are falling for it. Its a shame when someone states Jesus is a fraud or a cool guy and so on, yet, they've never opened up the New Testament, let alone read the four Gospels. Truly, people really are missing out on incredible lessons in those four books, lessons your local magazine stand or tell-a-vision box, even your local book store, don't teach. Just to digress a bit... Terry Goodkind wrote an eleven book series called the [i:2ujrtgy3]Sword of Truth[/i:2ujrtgy3] series. The first book is titled [i:2ujrtgy3]Wizard's First Rule[/i:2ujrtgy3]. Each book reveals a Wizard's Rule. The Wizard's First Rule is this: "People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid. they will believe a lie because they want to believe its true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool." "People need an enemy to feel a sense of purpose. Its easy to lead people when they have a sense of purpose. Sense of purpose is more important by far than the truth. In fact, truth has no bearing in this. People are stupid, they want to believe, so they do." Its obvious to me, with the political situations across this planet, and with movies and documentaries such as Zeitgeist, that this rule is being applied, and people are falling for it. I will even admit that I could very well be one of those people. There's a good saying (I forget who coined it): "The lie is different at every level." That's it for now. Somebody gave me a copy of Religulous to watch. I have yet to, because, fortunately for me, Bill has been on my shitlist for years, so I expect nothing more than garbage from him, and I don't want to waste my time watching garbage. Thanks luciferi for clarifying the obvious expectation from Bill. I hope others who watch that garbage can also see it for what it is, and more importantly, see Bill Maher for the distortion he is. view post


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