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posted 19 Aug 2004, 21:08 by Grantaire, Moderator

Actually yeah Larry, when Wil told me, one of my first thoughts was "hmm, I should see about starting a book club like OF has". I'd been thinking about suggesting something like that to Wil or Sovin even prior to my appointment, so if they have no problem with it, I'm all for starting one. I'll probably think up more stuff in addition to that that I might like to do. And pretty much all of my questions from our discussion have been solved, just from the first few pages in which Kellhus talks to Cnaiur (holy crap those are two awesome characters). Not to mention that Scott pretty much says exactly what the darkness that comes before is :wink: view post


posted 19 Aug 2004, 22:08 by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

If one is started up here, I'm willing to help/participate the best I can. As for your questions, aren't you glad that I took the Socratic approach? And yes, Cnaiür and Kellhus in the same scene makes for excellent drama, c'est ne pas? :D view post


posted 19 Aug 2004, 23:08 by Wil, Head Moderator

Gran, give me a plan of the book club: Forums, subforums, planning on book choice etc. and I'll discuss it with Sovin. view post


posted 20 Aug 2004, 00:08 by Grantaire, Moderator

Larry- thanks, I know you'll probably be able to suggest plenty of interesting books too. And oh my yes, those are terrific scenes. Those are two of the best fantasy characters I've read any time recently. Wil, I don't have an exact plan hammered down yet, but I probably will in the next day or so (or tonight, depends if I'm reading TDTCB all night :wink: ). I'll pm you when I come up with my plan. view post


posted 20 Aug 2004, 01:08 by Clarkesworld Books, Peralogue

Congratulations! Best of luck to you. -Neil view post


posted 20 Aug 2004, 01:08 by Grantaire, Moderator

Thank you very much! And I just checked out your website, and I like it very much (gotta say, that's significantly lower hardcover prices than stores. me likes :wink: ) view post


posted 20 Aug 2004, 12:08 by Replay, Auditor

Congrats Grantaire. view post


posted 20 Aug 2004, 13:08 by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

[quote="Grantaire":1va3xu2b]Larry- thanks, I know you'll probably be able to suggest plenty of interesting books too. And oh my yes, those are terrific scenes. Those are two of the best fantasy characters I've read any time recently. Wil, I don't have an exact plan hammered down yet, but I probably will in the next day or so (or tonight, depends if I'm reading TDTCB all night :wink: ). I'll pm you when I come up with my plan.[/quote:1va3xu2b] Damn straight I will. As a matter of fact, I'll suggest two rather obvious ones: Martin's [i:1va3xu2b]A Game of Thrones[/i:1va3xu2b] and Erikson's [i:1va3xu2b]Gardens of the Moon[/i:1va3xu2b], seeing how so many here are fans of both series in addition to PoN. And if you need more help, I'll glance at some UBB/PHP-style boards that have done book club-like threads before. wotmania's, while good, is probably not suitable for this format. view post


posted 20 Aug 2004, 19:08 by legatus, Auditor

[quote="Aldarion":1n3fpy3u]...c'est ne pas? :D[/quote:1n3fpy3u] In this context, shouldn't that be [i:1n3fpy3u]n'est-ce pas[/i:1n3fpy3u]? What? Inane French grammar quibbling isn't the thrust of this thread? Silly me :P In any case, I certainly like the idea of a book club. For the most part, I hope the book choices end up leaning towards the fantasy end of the spectrum, but I'd be interested in reading and discussing a wider range of genres as well. view post


posted 20 Aug 2004, 19:08 by Grantaire, Moderator

Okay, for anyone who is somewhat interested in the idea, so questions- -do you want it to stick only with fantasy? Or do you want a broad range of genres? -how often? Monthly, bi-monthly? -Do you want the admins to choose, or do you want to nominate then vote, or what? Any other comments are appreciated too. view post


posted 20 Aug 2004, 19:08 by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

[quote="legatus":z8mkwau5][quote="Aldarion":z8mkwau5]...c'est ne pas? :D[/quote:z8mkwau5] In this context, shouldn't that be [i:z8mkwau5]n'est-ce pas[/i:z8mkwau5]? What? Inane French grammar quibbling isn't the thrust of this thread? Silly me :P In any case, I certainly like the idea of a book club. For the most part, I hope the book choices end up leaning towards the fantasy end of the spectrum, but I'd be interested in reading and discussing a wider range of genres as well.[/quote:z8mkwau5] Considering almost all the French I know, I picked up from either Latin class or from learning how to communicate in broken Haitian Kreyòl, just be amazed that I was even that close :P view post


posted 20 Aug 2004, 19:08 by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

I'd suggest it be at least bimonthly, based on personal experience of trying to get even a large readership to cooperate with reading one a month. I also think it should be open to suggestions, top 3 voted upon in a poll, and then the winner being discussed at the beginning of the month, at least 6 weeks after a poll has ended. For example, say we nominate some books this upcoming week, make a poll for the Top 3 on next Wednesday, and announce a winner a week from today. The earliest we should hold that discussion should be the first Monday in October. As for the type of books, it doesn't matter much to me, although I guess the various forms of speculative fiction should be the main focus. view post


posted 20 Aug 2004, 19:08 by Grantaire, Moderator

Good call Larry. So you think 6 weeks-8 weeks generally? view post


posted 20 Aug 2004, 19:08 by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

Yep, at the minimum. view post


posted 20 Aug 2004, 19:08 by Grantaire, Moderator

Sounds good. Now what I'm unsure of is whether books should in general be popular ones (i.e. Martin), or else lesser heard of authors. view post


posted 20 Aug 2004, 20:08 by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

Test drive the format with the more popular ones, just to work out any perceived kinks. That's why I chose Tolkien's [i:1muqr2cz]Fellowship of the Ring[/i:1muqr2cz] to be the first OF Book Club discussion back in November 2001. Since then, I've continued to make modifications to how the books are chosen, the questions asked, and so forth. view post


posted 20 Aug 2004, 20:08 by legatus, Auditor

[quote="Grantaire":1y4f1egr]-do you want it to stick only with fantasy? Or do you want a broad range of genres?[/quote:1y4f1egr] As I mentioned above, I think fantasy should be the thrust, with heavy doses of sci-fi and other genres falling under the speculative fiction umbrella, but a little variety now and again is always a good thing, so other genres should be fair game as well. [quote="Grantaire":1y4f1egr]-how often? Monthly, bi-monthly?[/quote:1y4f1egr] That depends on what you mean by bi-monthly. If you meant twice a month, I think that's considerably too frequent, whereas if you meant every other month, I'd be a lot more comfortable with that. Ideally, I'd like it to be monthly, since it seems a good compromise between not enough time for everyone to read the book and so much time that many might be prone to forgetting details. But seeing as I have precious little experience when it comes to book clubs, I'm prone to deferring to Aldarion's judgement on the impracticality of keeping everyone on that kind of schedule, so maybe every second month would be best. [quote="Grantaire":1y4f1egr]-Do you want the admins to choose, or do you want to nominate then vote, or what?[/quote:1y4f1egr] A nomination / voting system would definitely be preferable. In the case of a deadlock or a lack of nominations, however, the choice should then come down to the admins' discretion. view post


posted 21 Aug 2004, 00:08 by drosdelnoch, Subdidact

Im of the thinking that it should be nominations along with voting after, that way the most popular choices all get a fair chance. I would also like to agree with opinnion that monthly is fair enough as it gives everyone who wishes to participate the chance to pick up the book and read it. Probably also suggesting paperbacks only to be nominated as to buy a hardback could prove quite costly, plus also with a paperback if you wanted to get it from the library you'd have a fair chance of picking it up and those stateside and uk side have a fair chance of being able to get the same novel. view post


posted 24 Aug 2004, 16:08 by NorthernPlato, Candidate

Good afternoon all, I'm curious, what does a book club discuss? Would it be similar to book studies we all used to do in school? I didn't really appreciate how much more enjoyment could be taken from a book by really looking at it in great detail until my last year of high school (oac english lit. - and I don't want to even think about how many years ago that was :lol: ) but now that I've discovered quite a few new authors, I find that no-one I know likes to read that much, let alone dissect word usage, plot points, theme, etc (not for lack of trying - I sometimes feel like a pusher suggesting books to friends "hey buddy, you gotta try this one...") anywho, I'm all for it. I guess this is basically my long winded way of saying I'd like to join in. Fior Go Bas view post


posted 24 Aug 2004, 21:08 by Alric, Auditor

[quote="NorthernPlato":2h0mcn66]Good afternoon all, I'm curious, what does a book club discuss? Would it be similar to book studies we all used to do in school? [/quote:2h0mcn66] Well, you can put a bit of that unease to rest. For the most part, book clubs are run in a bit more open fashion. A group of participants, or Gran in this case, might pick a book of interest. It'd be mentioned that a discussion of the book would take place at a certain date. When it comes time, we talk about what we liked, what we didn't, specific developments, philosophies, etc. view post


posted 24 Aug 2004, 21:08 by Alric, Auditor

Grantaire, I'd be willing to help out too if you need any ideas or have some questions. I've been tag teaming with Larry doing Book Clubs for a little over a year now. But, as this is your deal, make sure you put a bit of your own spin on this. Have fun with it. view post


posted 24 Aug 2004, 21:08 by Grantaire, Moderator

Righto. And I must say, I love the sig line Alric :wink: I completely agree, there is [i:2zf2t6yk]nothing[/i:2zf2t6yk] better than freshly cooked bacon in the morning...mmm..But I'll take your advice on the book club. School just started yesterday, and my schedule is pretty hard (two and a half hours of homework on my first night). So basically, once my things settle down a bit, I'll probably be setting down a formal plan and starting this up. view post


posted 25 Aug 2004, 15:08 by Alric, Auditor

Great to hear, Gran. Good luck with classes and the homework. And like I said, let me know if you want any help with anything. view post


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