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What subgroup of speculative fiction do you prefer? posted 06 Sep 2004, 16:09 by Grantaire, Moderator

Fantasy? Horror? Science fiction? Whatever other group you can think of? Me, I'm not a big horror fan, mainly because I haven't delved too much into the genre. I like fantasy and sci-fi, but only certain types. For example, I'm not too much into stereotypical fantasy (i.e. dungeons and dragons, etc). How about you all? view post


posted 06 Sep 2004, 18:09 by Clarkesworld Books, Peralogue

Primarily science fiction and fantasy, with some horror. I tend to stay away from novelizations, rpg based, gorey, and young adult. Favorite is based on mood. -Neil view post


posted 06 Sep 2004, 20:09 by Orion_metalhead, Auditor

fantasy though ive read some other genres too. fantasy is my favorite though. i like just about all of it simply because i can find stuff about each book that i like. i find myself really enjoying reading the Forgotten Realms series though, i like the descriptions of the magic used and stuff. makes it interesting. But i dont mind getting myself into an epic series such as the Wheel Of Time now and again. Horror is something i would enjoy reading but havent really checked into it much. view post


posted 06 Sep 2004, 21:09 by DarkMatter, Peralogue

I prefer fantasy. Horror and Science fiction I like but I don't read them much. So Fantasy is what I read most of. view post


posted 06 Sep 2004, 21:09 by AjDeath, Didact

Is gritty fantasy a sub-group? Becuase that is what I enjoy the most. view post


posted 07 Sep 2004, 00:09 by Grantaire, Moderator

It's certainly a subgroup of fantasy, Aj. Do you mean in the fashion of Mieville? view post


posted 07 Sep 2004, 01:09 by AjDeath, Didact

Never read Mieville, but reading some of the threads here, I certainly should. Could you suggest something for me to read by this author, also what kind of story(s) does this author write? I have very specific tastes now. The cut and dry, kid, prophecy, triumph, king, story has pretty much played it out. I think David B. Coe, Bakker, Keyes, G.R.R. Martin, Erikson and Neal Stephenson(not really fantasy) have pretty much ruined the fantasy genre for me. I have hundreds and hundreds of books of all kinds (mostly fantasy), but some authors seem to be writing the same story over and over (David Drake) and some have become or are very cliche fantasy writers. I need more realism [i:2fe4632i]or[/i:2fe4632i] very wierd fantasy. If you can beleive it or not, I have run out of fantasy to read. I am at the point where I am waiting for new books to come out from my favorite authors. It is driving me insane. :lol: view post


posted 07 Sep 2004, 19:09 by Alric, Auditor

I'm not a big fan of categorization myself, and I rarely categorize in my own mind what it is I'm reading. A lot of what I read seems to fall between several of the generally accepted terms. Authors like Mieville, Gaiman, MacLeod, Simmons, DeLint, Wolfe, to name a few seem to be able to blend the boundries, create new rules and simply let the story flow where it may. So, what I most like to read are well-written stories. Whether or not the story is set in a dystopic, near-future or a mythical, magic filled created world of dragons doesn't matter to me as long as the story is well-written, well-crafted, populated with interesting and accessible characters. view post


posted 07 Sep 2004, 22:09 by drosdelnoch, Subdidact

I don't like to put myself into a box, if I read the back of a book and it piques my interest then I'll read it. Likewise I tend to avoid reading reviews in regard to a novel as I prefer to make my own judgements. Some who have had critical acclaim I cant seem to make headway with and just get board, others that have been slated Ive quite enjoyed. view post


posted 07 Sep 2004, 22:09 by Taliesin, Peralogue

Pretty much copy and paste what Alric said, and you'd get a good approximation of my own views :wink: But yeah, the genre definition doesn't matter nearly as much as the quality of the writing, the experience that I get in reading the book. And, I like those books that push the boundaries in one way or another, rather than relying on convention, though of course there is also much to be said for utilizing the conventions in new and interesting ways.... view post


posted 08 Sep 2004, 07:09 by Aldarion, Sorcerer-of-Rank

To paraphrase Beavis and Butt-head: The one that doesn't suck ;) view post


posted 14 Sep 2004, 03:09 by eowyn1983, Peralogue

Fantasy and sci-fi but I'm picky about which ones I'll read. I don't like stories that are too stereotypical. Has to be well-written, intelligent or humorous, epic fantasy is great if it's well-done and I love intelligent sci-fi...like Dune (which is really a mixture of sci-fi, fantasy & some other stuff) & Ender's Game and subsequent books in the series. Fantasy like Scott Bakker's work, Tolkien, Philip Pullman etc....I don't even mind formulaic fantasy if it is really well-written & pulls off the formula well or if it's humorous. I love Terry Pratchett and Douglas Adams too...I could go on forever.... view post


posted 19 Sep 2004, 18:09 by Sovin Nai, Site Administrator

Gritty 'realistic' epic fantasy. Martin, Bakker, Erikson. Though I tend to agree with eowyn that I enjoy almost anything depending on how it's written. view post


posted 29 Dec 2004, 04:12 by Annabel, Peralogue

Speculative fiction? How about the stock market reports or the weather channel. But, seriously, I like graphic novels from time to time. Alan Moore's series for The Swamp Thing and From Hell - brilliant. The Invisibles. The Watchman. V for Vendetta. And currently Hellboy just because the drawing is amazing. If anyone has any suggestions for good graphic novels, let me know! What I am really waiting for is for Kirkland to come out with another InHumans series - the first was just great popcorn drama. view post


posted 20 Mar 2005, 11:03 by Ainulindale, Commoner

I'm a fan of epic fantasy but have to admit outside of the top half dozen or so authors their is a severe drop off, at least to me IMHO. I much prefer the New Weird/Moorcockian fantasy now, that said their are authors in all branches I like but right now I enjoy the edgier stuff. Authors like: China Mieville Jeff VanderMeer KJ Bishop M. John Harrison Michael Moorcock Rhys Hughes Matthew Rossii Mervyn Peake Macleod etc [quote:1swdfgnh]Never read Mieville, but reading some of the threads here, I certainly should. Could you suggest something for me to read by this author, also what kind of story(s) does this author write?[/quote:1swdfgnh] I have some reviews of 3 of [b:1swdfgnh]Mieville's[/b:1swdfgnh] works here, if interested, IMHO he is probably the author I enjoy the most now, a supreme talent.: [url=http://www.fantasybookspot.com/?q=node/view/131:1swdfgnh]Perdido Street Station review[/url:1swdfgnh] [url=http://www.fantasybookspot.com/?q=node/view/78:1swdfgnh]Iron Council review[/url:1swdfgnh] [url=http://www.fantasybookspot.com/?q=node/view/108:1swdfgnh]King Rat review[/url:1swdfgnh] view post


posted 23 Apr 2005, 19:04 by AjDeath, Didact

[quote="Ainulindale":1yb7lsri]I'm a fan of epic fantasy but have to admit outside of the top half dozen or so authors their is a severe drop off, at least to me IMHO. I much prefer the New Weird/Moorcockian fantasy now, that said their are authors in all branches I like but right now I enjoy the edgier stuff. Authors like: China Mieville Jeff VanderMeer KJ Bishop M. John Harrison Michael Moorcock Rhys Hughes Matthew Rossii Mervyn Peake Macleod etc [quote:1yb7lsri]Never read Mieville, but reading some of the threads here, I certainly should. Could you suggest something for me to read by this author, also what kind of story(s) does this author write?[/quote:1yb7lsri] I have some reviews of 3 of [b:1yb7lsri]Mieville's[/b:1yb7lsri] works here, if interested, IMHO he is probably the author I enjoy the most now, a supreme talent.: [url=http://www.fantasybookspot.com/?q=node/view/131:1yb7lsri]Perdido Street Station review[/url:1yb7lsri] [url=http://www.fantasybookspot.com/?q=node/view/78:1yb7lsri]Iron Council review[/url:1yb7lsri] [url=http://www.fantasybookspot.com/?q=node/view/108:1yb7lsri]King Rat review[/url:1yb7lsri][/quote:1yb7lsri]Thanks, I will have to pick his work up. view post


speculative fiction... posted 06 May 2005, 04:05 by Attilles Pr'Diem, Commoner

I really wanted to like China Mieville, and I do, in a way...I just really don't like the Bas-Lag setting (Steampunk, yuck)Also, the politics are a bit much, way too overt for my taste...PSS is a must read, but the other two just didn't do much for me at all. Still, he is obviously a colossal talent, I just wish he would spend it in ways I can appreciate :) As far as speculative fiction in general, I dunno if there are any useful subcategories...I love Robert Graves and Colleen McCullough's treatment of Rome, Kim Stanley Robinson's attempt at rational utopia in his Mars trilogy, and Steve Lundin/Erikson in everything he does ;) I was very disappointed in Wolfe's Wizard Knight duology if that's any indication :( What a load of shit that was... view post


posted 28 May 2005, 22:05 by gyrehead, Candidate

Mieville has always struck me as someone way too impressed with himself. Nothing I have read has impressed me at all. I do agree [b:1w4by7c8]Attilles[/b:1w4by7c8], that there seems to be a hint of talent and promise. But until he drops the silly gimmicky affectations he seems so firmly attached to, I don't see it happening. A true writer can never be that self-aware or self-involved in how he writing for it to work for me. Steph Swainston and Susanna Clarke both have an incredibly awkward affected style that seems much more important to them than just writing and telling a great story. A shame. All three seem to have it in them. But at least they are making some people happy. I just hope their self-importance is not as contagious as it currently seems. The idea of the overall genre turning into a "you don't buy a happy meal for the food" general approach would be a real shame. As for the main topic at hand? Not sure I have a favorite. I love world-building. I love complexity and plots that not only have momentum but also allow insight. Where plots are the result of somone's actions not just a wave of events that carry the story along. I don't mind "fate" playing a hand. But as the sole vehicle for a story it grates and wears thin. Most importantly I love an author that can use his or her words to paint a vivid and compelling image in my mind and yet, paradoxically, allow me to read between the lines and make their story my own as I read it. Their creation, my consumption. A delicate balance, but if acheived it makes the whole experience simply incredible. Epic fantasy does this the best and the worst. So I am not sure that either end of the spectrum cancels each other out. So I would say that it is the genre of fantasy itself that I love. it is broad and sweeping and allows for everything from supernatural thrillers to the alien culture space operas of C.J. Cherryh. I'm greedy. I'll take it all. view post


posted 03 Jun 2005, 13:06 by Ashmael, Candidate

I tend to prefer originality in fantasy, I'm not interested in Tolkien's clones and conventional fantasy. My favourite fantasy series are: Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser stories of Fritz Leiber The Mists of Avalon of Marion Zimmer Bradley Elric Saga by Michael Moorcock Otherland by Tad Williams Nightrunner series of Lynn Fflewellyng Sarantium of guy Gavriel Kay Wraeththu by Storm Constantine The Prince of Nothing of R.S.Bakker I like learned, profound, young adult fantasy. I've read China Mieville, good but I couldn't suffer his complacency on grisly scenes. view post


posted 03 Jun 2005, 21:06 by Deerow, Auditor

I'm a little scattered to be honest. I enjoy a good fantasy novel (obviously, or I wouldn't be on these forums) but also enjoy a bit of sci-fi, plenty of fiction and some Stephen King (namely the Dark Tower series which is, more or less, fantasy...but other things as well). Also a bit of a Gaiman fan. Whether it is his novels (fantasy I suppose) or his graphic novels. view post


posted 26 Jul 2005, 23:07 by target, Auditor

I like fantasy and Sci-Fi. I dabble in other genres such as travel writing (eg. Bill Bryson & Pete McCarthy), historical novels (eg. Bernard Cornwell) and i don't mind the occasional forray into pop culture with Nick Hornby. Recently i thoroughly enjoyed Alice Seebold's '[i:3er1t9ta]The Lovely Bones[/i:3er1t9ta]' and i would recommend Robert Rankin for light entertainment, y personnal favourite being '[i:3er1t9ta]The Hollow Chocolate Bunnies of the Apocalypse[/i:3er1t9ta]'. Another author i discovered last year was Max Barry. I really enjoyed '[i:3er1t9ta]Jennifer Government[/i:3er1t9ta]' and am looking forward to his next novel, '[i:3er1t9ta]Comapny[/i:3er1t9ta]'. view post


posted 04 Aug 2005, 20:08 by *42*, Commoner

I dont really have one. I just kind of go with whatever mood I am in. I like a little of everything from Homer to Harry Potter. Thoughtful, fun, or just plain wierd, I try it and the old grey matter determines the value. view post


posted 21 Aug 2005, 16:08 by TheBrucolac, Commoner

Steampunk. I LOVE China Mieville. My favorite author. view post


posted 21 Aug 2005, 21:08 by Scilvenas, Auditor

Funny, couldn't tell. ;) view post


posted 22 Aug 2005, 01:08 by AjDeath, Didact

Hmmmm, besides about five authors, I don't even read fantasy anymore. :shock: :D view post


posted 10 Sep 2007, 06:09 by seaflower, Commoner

When I was younger I was a whore for the sword and sorcery genre. But a great blood letting happen after I open myself to Japanese literature and urban magical realism. But The Prince of Nothing series has help me return to fantasy. view post


posted 12 Sep 2007, 03:09 by Jamara, Auditor

Definitely Fantasy, though as I grow older it seems I find less and less worth reading. I also love (no pun intended) Lovecraft. I'm not really sure what to classify him as. Maybe suspense/horror. view post


posted 08 Oct 2007, 11:10 by Deornoth, Candidate

It's always been fantasy for me but these days I'm finding that I go for military fantasy (Erikson, Cook) or High Fantasy (Martin, Williams, Keyes in particular). I'm not sure where Bakker fits in sub-genre wise... :? view post


posted 28 Oct 2007, 01:10 by Bluehot, Commoner

I am definately a Sci Fi fan first and foremost. There is just not enough good stories and authors out there though. The publishing world is running about 5 to 1 fantasy to Sci fi so in between Sci Fi releases I like fantasy. But there is too much epic quest stuff out there, and not enough like Bakker and Glen Cook. Game of Thrones was good for about the first 2 and a half books. Then it just got tedious. Fantasy seems like such a sellout right now. Everyone just writes it cause its where the money is right now. There is so little discipline to tell a good story, it seems its more aabout filling up inches of shelf space. Its so hard to find something good amoungst the mountains of dreck. view post


posted 28 Nov 2007, 16:11 by noodles0585, Peralogue

i like fantasy quite a bit in particular i also really enjoy martin, wofe, erikson, bakker, and jordan may he rest in peace. when i stray from fantasy i enjoy john lecarre who i believe is excellent because he doesn't write these completely unrealistic novels about super spys. in particular i enjoyed the spy who came in from the cold, tinker tailor soldier soy, and smiley's people. view post


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