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George Bush posted 20 Jan 2008, 16:01 by Harrol, Moderator

I am writing this post to express my veiws of this president. In the year 2000 I voted for him because Al Gore seemed too out of touch to me (the whole talking tree impersonation that he does so well). During his first term my opinion of Bush changed drastically. I do not believe Bush is either conservative or christian but rather he uses those labels to garner support. Bush is a neo-con all in all and his whole dumb act is just that an act. He does reason and plot quite well as he took the shortest path on Iraq. Suddam was spending millions on the euro to devalue the worth of the dollar and his constant needling at the US government made the government look weak. As soon as Iraq was invade Lybia abandoned their nuclear program as did Iran in 2003. The US proved that while it may not be able to remake your country in its image it can destroy your military and then leave you vulnerable to your own internal enemies. In other words a manuver similar to Cnaiur making Conphas fear for his life and therefore think with his skin. I do not agree with Bush's international policy but I do see some merits to it. Back to my original point I see no evidence of Bush being a God fearing christian but rather a shrewed politian playing off of the convictions and beliefs of others. view post

posted 22 Jan 2008, 12:01 by Curethan, Didact

Don't live in America, so I won't comment directly - but I found Scott's comments on Bush as anti-intellectual (in the interview linked in the great ordeal section) very interesting as I have noted the same attitudes in Australian politics over the past 10 or more years and I think they have some bearing on your views here, Harrol. view post

posted 23 Jan 2008, 00:01 by zephyr, Candidate

I agree with you Harrol. It's almost the same thing that happened with Jimmy Carter. He claimed to be a born again Christian which got him alot of votes in the religious sector. Then he got elected and everyone realized his falseness.(is that a word?). And Carter was definitely not good for America. Yeah George Bush did make some good decisions, but has ruined any support for him over his term. One thing I wish is just that he would learn to speak in front of people better. All his phrases are full of pauses and it gets annoying. view post

posted 23 Jan 2008, 18:01 by Mandati Wannabe, Candidate

Personally, I think that any good the man has done over the past seven years has been pure coincidence. I believe he is after his own, personal agenda (i.e. Oil in Iraq. It's no coincidence that he owns a LOT of the oil industry, and that oil prices have tripled since he came into office). The "War on Terror" is a laugh. He has sent minimal troops into Afghanistan (only pretending he's concerned with Bin Laden), and immediately started invading Iraq (with minimal justification), because Iraq has oil. You've heard the theories, I'm sure. I believe these are the only issues he really cares about. Everything else, he's simply HAD to deal with because he's the current President, and any good that came out of them is negligible, really. I'm not sure I trust any of the current candidates any more, either. view post

posted 23 Jan 2008, 19:01 by Harrol, Moderator

You can trust me Mandati :twisted: I do not even have a vested interests in oil. view post

Re: George Bush posted 11 Feb 2008, 14:02 by skinspysexbot, Commoner

[quote="Harrol":1fvfga5x] I do not agree with Bush's international policy but I do see some merits to it. Back to my original point I see no evidence of Bush being a God fearing christian but rather a shrewed politian playing off of the convictions and beliefs of others.[/quote:1fvfga5x] How do you feel about the current candidates in regards to foreign policy? McCain for me seems to want to entrench US forces in the middle east for the long term to consolidate political leverage and crude oil. Whereas Obama wants more foreays into Africa for "peacekeeping" but with globalization as it is and us brits holding major stakes in the african continent things may well change. Looks like both are hawks out to enforce the status quo And Hillary Clinton wants to alienate Iran, using US military might as the deterrent. Might as well draw the whole world in if that happens, China, Russia etc will not sit by idly is another Iraq happens - too much at stake Is the US a reckless superpower blundering its way through the world or a cold calculating entity capitulating every move - Che Guevara I dont think it was the shortest path. Does the US really want its soldiers drawn into another punitive engagament like Vietnam? view post

posted 09 Mar 2008, 16:03 by Harrol, Moderator

The US does not want to waste money like they did in Vietnam. As far as the deployment and death of its soldiers well thats just a loss we can accept in their minds. Just to let you know my reserve unit is scheduled to deploy in 2009 to Iraq so I do not speak as a disinterested spectator. Politicians care about soldiers only as tools and they fear voter backlash due to long engagements. view post

Re: George Bush posted 19 Jul 2008, 04:07 by Cironian, Peralogue

I could rant on and on about Bush and what he does to the country... And his grammar... ("The childrens is learning..." No joke, he ACTUALLY SAID THAT.) And the war... (spending $3000/second on it) And his attitude... (ego bigger than his ears, and thinks he's so smart...) And... well, you get the idea. view post

Re: George Bush posted 27 Jul 2008, 06:07 by avatar_of_existence, Peralogue

recently I've come to believe more and more in anarchy, the idea of tribalism and the idealism of a leaderless community. George Bush is doing what those in power do, it's always been this way ever since the birth of agriculture and civilization. I had some faith in Obama until I learned a few things about him that aren't largely discussed, most remarkedly his feelings towards capital punishment (he's for it). It's business as usual, and I am tired of the aristocracy. I am ready for change. view post

Re: George Bush posted 29 Jul 2008, 11:07 by Curethan, Didact

They were gunna have a revolution on the internet but the trolls ruined it. :shock: view post

Re: George Bush posted 21 Aug 2008, 19:08 by baloogabear, Commoner

hiya i'm new here. I read the books-Fuffing loved em, and then a friend told me about this website so i thought i pretty much had to join. I was having a wonder through here when this thread very much caught my eye. It is my personal opinion that george w. bush is the devils very own ventriloquist's dummy, (the devil being dick cheney.) He has raped this country blind with this war on terror and his insaitable lust for oil. I have no doubts that the christian faith has absolutly no bearing on george bush's decisicions, he has made a mockery of american goverment and seems hell bent on driving this country into the ground. We now owe the chinese in excess of 3 trillion dollars and bush seems all to happy on simply printing more money out to pay them off, regardless of the fact that soon we will be drowing in useless dollar bills. what god fearing man, or vaugely decent human being for that matter, would ever do this to his own country? george bush is about as a-moral as the companies that he, for all intents and purposes, works for. cinaur might be the breaker of horses and men, but bush is by far the more violent, he is the breaker of countries and currency. As you can proabaly guess i'm not his biggest fan, and i could ramble and babble about how much i hate the smary shister all day, but i wont lol. rant over. view post

Re: George Bush posted 23 Aug 2008, 08:08 by jub, Peralogue

[quote="baloogabear":6d9erl6z]I have no doubts that the christian faith has absolutly no bearing on george bush's decisicions,[/quote:6d9erl6z] Check out the Christian Right; I'm sure thier whispers will be heard in a few ears. view post


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