This may seem like an odd question, but everyone else has already covered any other question
The book covers of your first two novels are similar, but noticably different (same format, one's blackish and the other is yellow/orange).
I understand that the third novel is not yet finished, but have you any idea what color the cover may be?
Hah Sorry for the dumb question!
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Thats a well written, accurate review.
... If we were talking about a different book.
Last I checked, [i:1ywomsp3]The Prince of Nothing[/i:1ywomsp3] was kind of about a Holy War, not necropheliac-beastiality.
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I'm for it. Though I'm Canadian and have little say in the US Constitution, I support the idea of marriage = love, not genre. That said, though, my stance is a bit biased... since, of course, I'm gay myself hah. So obviously, I'd likely not be against my own rights... Even so, the only argument against it is the religious one, and the government shouldn't be influenced by religion (separation of church and state), so I don't see a very good argument against it. Luckily, I'm in Canada, where it's already legal in many provinces. view post
[quote="Aesmael":2zl7f371]I strongly suspect (or perhaps would like to believe) that in most cases where religious concerns would make gay marriage inappropriate, it is the religion that needs changing.[/quote:2zl7f371] Very well said. view post
I know you don't currently have plans to come visit, but I encourage you to push for it through Penguin! I'd, for one, absolutely love your autograph on those books... And yes. I decided this is worthy of a new thread :p And keep me updated! view post
[quote="Cu'jara Cinmoi":8t185cj0]They sent me to Vancouver last time, so the chances are probably good that I'll end up somewhere in your vicinity Nauticus.
It'll be some time before I know anything definite, and when I do, Mithfanion will likely tell everyone before I have a chance! [/quote:8t185cj0]
Excellent. I'd make the trip to Vancouver if you went back.
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Yeah. The cover enticed me to check it out. That said, I've read [i:29xb695a]The Darkness That Comes Before[/i:29xb695a] 3 times and I'm on the 2nd time reading [i:29xb695a]The Warrior-Prophet[/i:29xb695a]. view post
It was a great movie, but I disagree that people interested in Martial Arts would particularly like it. After all, just because he can preform pre-rendered combat patterns on TV doesn't really mean he's a very good fighter. Mind you, the same goes for Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee, and even Jean-Claud Van-Damm. I train in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Jishin-Ryu Jujitsu, Judo, and kickboxing. I used to take, and reached, green belt in Taekwondo. I've competed, won and lost, in both gi and no-gi Jiu-Jitsu tournaments, Judo competitions, Taekwondo events, SANCHU Karate matches, kickboxing fights, and huge Modified Pankration spectacles. Thing is, there are no flying side kicks in a real fight. It usually consists of jabs and crosses, followed by a high kick/clinch to knee/clinch to takedown, depending on the stylist. There's very little jumping in a fight, due to the elimination of your balance once you do so. Good movie, but I think some people overemphasize his combat skill too much. view post
[quote="Faelcind Il Danach":3t7200ns]nauticus I am lifelong martial artist myself so I appreciate the realitis of fighting vs. onscreen perfromance but suggest martial artist won't get particular kick out of this movie is rather ludicrous. The vast majority of martial artist admire guys like bruce lee and Jackie chan despite knowing what the do onscreen wouldn't translate in real fight.[/quote:3t7200ns] To each his own, I guess. Most people I train with have little respect for Lee and Chan, and so forth, for exploiting their self-defense training to make money. Of course, we can just as easily hate Capitalism for that, but thats beside the point. I don't disrespect either of them, but I'm a fan of realistic movies. So, when they have unrealistic fight scenes, it annoys me. view post
[quote="Ashmael":2n2ak5iy]I think the worst blasphemy is that of all of those who claim they're justified in discriminating, persecuting. killing and waging war because "God" has sanctioned or authorized those acts. So Bin Laden thinks Allah blesses him in organizing the killing of thousands of innocents. The satanists sects member thinks the pityless killing of a trusting friend is a sacrifice to his demonic deity, and thus is justified. Torquemada thought that torturing and burning heretics was an homage to God. And what's Holy War, or ,to arabs "Jihad"? It's the sanction of countless murders and destructions, allegedly provided by God. But Holy War is an oxymoron. No war could ever be holy. Jesus, our Loving Sweet Saviour, bade us love each other. He wants mercy, not sacrifice. Those who claim God approves or foster hatred and killing are nothing but blasphmers.[/quote:2n2ak5iy] I agree, but for argument's sake, not every religion follows Jesus' word. According to the Koran, the Holy book of Islam (which, I may add, is equally as credible as the Holy Bible), a Muslim can kill a heathen and secure himself and his family forever, in the afterlife. view post
Well, when Achamian draws that line, he only knows what [i:fi61xl4y]he's[/i:fi61xl4y] learnt. All he knows is that Skeaos (can't seem to spell this morning...) was the closest advisor to the Emperor. At this point, Achamian doesn't know if the Consult has influenced the Nasur Empire in any way, but there is an obvious link between them, so he drew that line. The line doesn't mean the Consult and the Empire are allies, and it doesn't mean the Consult has influenced the Empire all that much. [i:fi61xl4y]But[/i:fi61xl4y] Skeaos was a skin-spy, and a close aid to the Emperor, so there [i:fi61xl4y]is[/i:fi61xl4y] a link. We - and Achamian - just don't know what it is yet. view post
[quote="Ajencis":79rfwgtj]Another point that may be obvious, since I haven't seen this view expressed elsewhere, is that Kellhus is Jesus Christ, metaphorically. He dies and is resurrected. he sees in the Hearts of Men and is killed by people who fear change and his power. The Muslims believe that Jesus was a Prophet and the Jews believe that their Messiah will be a Warrior. hence the 'Warrior-Prophet' Kellhus has 9 main followers, the Nascenti. Kellhus' version of the Apostles? He is also looking for his Father. His symbol after the Resurrection is the Circumfix, which sounds like the Gnostic Cross. [/quote:79rfwgtj]
I can see those similarities, but Kellhus doesn't seem like a very... Christ-like figure, if you take his aims and goals into account. He's manipulating thousands of men to do his own bidding, and using people relentlessly, and whatnot. I suppose whether Jesus would do that sort of thing or not is up for debate, but I for one doubt it .
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Kellhus - Liam Neeson (Kingdom of Heaven, Batman Begins). He can be such an intellect. I swear every word he said in Batman Begins reminded me of some philosophical version of Kellhus. view post
Hahaha Brilliant thread. [quote="Super Frog":3v3fmmtr]2) If you could shout one word at God, what would it be?[/quote:3v3fmmtr] Hmm... probably "JESUS CHRIST!" view post
Yeah. I picture Mog-Pharau like an upgrade to Sauron. Like, Sauron essentially started a world war over the ring. The No-God's existence causes [i:w2c4sbbk]Apocalypses[/i:w2c4sbbk]. view post
I enjoy watching the NHL, the AHL, CFL, World Cup soccer, that sort of thing... I enjoy competing in varius martial art-oriented sports, like Judo, Sport Jujitsu, Taekwondo, Pankration, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Submission wrestling... I like watching them, too. view post
I'd have to agree about Xunnurit as well, I think. The book had it's fair share of cruelty, but I think he got the worst of it. view post
Cover looks really good... hell, all three covers are excellent. Instead of just a regulated picture, these covers [i:2s5hfam1]alone[/i:2s5hfam1] separate The Prince of Nothing from most other fantasy. view post
... Ouch. In 17 states you're technically allowed to do this? They fight same-sex marriage, but having vicious sex with animals is legal? What a country... view post
I'd have to say either Philosopher, or a Royal :p view post
I listen to a lot of progressive rock and progressive metal from around the world, so: BANDS 1. Pain of Salvation 2. Flower Kings 3. Karmakanic 4. Dream Theater 5. Echolyn 6. After Crying 7. Spock's Beard 8. Trans-Siberian Orchestra 9. Transatlantic 10. Genesis ALBUMS: 1. Pain of Salvation - The Perfect Element 2. Flower Kings - Stardust We Are 3. Dream Theater - Awake 4. After Crying - Show 5. Karmakanic - Wheel of Time 6. Trans-Siberian Orchestra - The Lost Christmas Eve 7. Flower Kings - Unfold the Future 8. Pain of Salvation - Be 9. Echolyn - Suffocating the Bloom 10. Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever view post
Oh, an honorable mention is Green Carnation's album, [i:590w43e6]Light of Day, Day of Darkness[/i:590w43e6]. Orchestras, choirs, a metal band, an epic 60 minute song... view post
I really wish I got to see it. I love George Carlin. Unfortunately, I don't get HBO. view post
I do agree. The entire song is crafted so masterfully. I love how ambient it is during that, and how it builds back up. Sixty minutes just flies right by. I saw Rent the other night, and I have to give it credit - I love that musical. So, I'll make a list of musicals now. 1. Les Miserables 2. Jekyll & Hyde 3. Rent 4. Phantom of the Opera 5. Rasputin 6. Jesus Christ Superstar 7. Wicked 8. Whistle Down the Road 9. Joseph And the Amazing Technicolored Dreamcoat 10. Nostradamus The first three are completely interchangable, and the rankings change daily. view post
Sounds like fun. I couldn't wait for [i:13vsb3e4]Thousandfold Thought[/i:13vsb3e4] any longer, so I went to eBay to bid for an Advanced Reader Copy. I found one, spent the afternoon pondering over it, and decided to bid on it. Unfortunately for me, the one I was eyeing up was already snatched up by someone else and bought. The only one left is only orderable to the United States. I bet God's having a blast teasing me. view post
Who cares? view post
[quote="Anonymous":36pz8awl]an odd answer. I care because to me it's as clear as can be that he is. I see it explained and related over and over throughout the two novels; And yet when I mentioned it in a previous post people seemed really taken aback like it was from out of nowhere. Not to mention if he's not gay, then that changes my understanding of the entire dynamic of his character, Kellhus, and Kellhus's father. It also changes my understanding of his motivations as well as the nature of the incredible internal struggle he grapples with through the two novels. So there's my question. Does it offend your tender sensibilities?[/quote:36pz8awl] I'm gay, so no. I was not offended. But why does it matter? Bakker's characters in this series are clearly a lot more detailed that 'gay' or 'straight'. You place too much emphasis on sexual orientation. You were even accusing Bakker of homosexuality earlier. view post
But Cnaiur is emotionally confused as a whole. Why boil it down to sexual orientation? view post
My favorite is Conphas. He's so ambitious and proud that you find yourself believing him in [i:2cjne0z8]The Warrior-Prophet[/i:2cjne0z8]. Another favorite is Kellhus. I'll be honest, I dislike him greatly. He's so immoral and heartless, but that is exactly why he's a favorite. He's written so well and realistically that I actually like hating him. Proyas is excellent too. Proyas and Achamian are similar in that they are struggling over their separate problems, but in a similar way. Achamian and Esmenet are the two most heart-wrenching characters in the book, and I relate most to Achamian. It had my adrenaline flowing when he [color=cyan:2cjne0z8]laid waste to the Scarlet Spires[/color:2cjne0z8] in TWP. So yeah. I change my original answer. Although I love Conphas, my favorite character is Drusas Achamian. view post
He had sex with the ground. He literally screwed anything. But I do not think he was gay. view post
I've honestly never been anticipating a book more than I am [i:1vkgemj1]The Thousandfold Thought[/i:1vkgemj1]. *ponders* TTT, The Bonehunters, that sci-fi thriller Mr. Bakker's doing, and of course the Aspect-Emperor. view post
I can see the similarities. But I do think the similarities are too few and the differences too solid to hold any reason to believe it influenced the Prince of Nothing. view post
Hah Valid point. I suppose it depends on the subject matter of the synopsis. view post
[quote="StegoKing":2flcevvj]I think it's quite obvious from the first two volumes of the Prince of Nothing that Cnauir is gay. As such, it's hardly a spoiler, though I apologize if you read it as such. I suggest you reread the first two books if you doubt this fact in the slightest.... you're probably missing a lot if you didn't pick up on that tidbit. I was a bit perterbed by the frothing homophobia in this thread and was railing against it. "Cnauir is too fuckin cool to be a fagg0t!!!!!11111"[/quote:2flcevvj] Well, I honestly didn't think of Cnaiur as gay. But I certainly re-read the first two volumes with this in mind. view post
That was a very interesting, very different viewpoint of the subject. I enjoyed reading that thoroughly, and it just may very well be accurate. view post
I clicked on this thread ready to tear your argument apart and prove you wrong. Upon reading your argument, I find myself at a loss of words. Good argument. Hopefully someone else can rebute it. view post
[quote="Warrior-Poet":krucczbo]Im gonna have to go with what the guest idiot said [quote:krucczbo]He also had sex with the ground. Does that make him tri-sexual? Can you screw a planet?[/quote:krucczbo] Having sexual relations with a man does not make you gay, having sex with a woman does not make you straight, and so on. Its like saying having sex with no one makes you no sexual or a non sexual. Also i find it quite odd that Cnauir's sexuality comes up so often in other posts as well.[/quote:krucczbo] I think the guest was stating the same thing as you - just because he made holes in the ground with his knife and lusted in those holes, that doesn't make him tri-sexual. view post
The closest I can think of is the Chain of Dogs plotline in [i:1ek3rnjt]Deadhouse Gates[/i:1ek3rnjt], written by Steven Erikson. view post
We won't apologize to you because you made a random guess in an attempt to predict something that is likely irrelevant to the plot itself, and we decided to disagree. view post
Well, how can Kellhus proact? He doesn't even know why he's going to Shimeh - he doesn't know what Moenghus wants. But how would he plan for the ships being attacked? His expertise is not war. Nobody is perfect - including Kellhus. You said it - 'character flaw'. Every character in near any book has one. Now, I don't believe he can't plan - the whole concept of manipulating a holy war to get to Shimeh is proof of that - but Kellhus can't be solely responsable for the ships attacking his, etc. view post
I'm extremely excited about [i:yl3tpdhh]Neuropath[/i:yl3tpdhh]. Sounds very psychological... but I'm curious how Scott'll combine such a psychological theme with, well, a plot
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[quote="butlersr":m6wlh3oe] but I still think that most of Cnauir's anger/rage comes from being so sexually conflicted. [/quote:m6wlh3oe] Wouldn't it be more realistic that his sexual conflict comes from his anger/rage? view post
It would be ironic if all the spammers got in a massive car accident and were rendered unable to use computers anymore. Well, I suppose that actually is not ironic, but it would still be cool. view post
I'm part-way through the ARC. That said, yes. I have my copy on reserve through Chapters. view post
How about a thread that we can discuss TTT, for those of us that have read it? I'll wait for some sort of permission before starting any discussion. Good idea? Bad idea? Wait until the 20th? view post
The Tangent - A Place in the Queue view post
Thats what I thought. But I figure I should wait - I don't know, if a bunch of spoilers for Bakker's unreleased book are one click away, I don't know if he'd appreciate it. I'll wait for a 'go' before, well, 'go'ing. view post
Wow. It comes out [i:1cdpqwfn]on[/i:1cdpqwfn] my birthday - turning 20 on January 20th! view post
[quote="Fell":24cp7zdo][url=http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060937262/:24cp7zdo]Imajica[/url:24cp7zdo], by Clive Barker. Dark fantasy à la Lovecraft.[/quote:24cp7zdo] What is this about? I've heard a tad about it. view post
Amazon is very strange in that way. I ordered the Pain of Salvation DVD [i:1odjy79z]Be Live[/i:1odjy79z] some months ago, and they had no clue when it would be shipped. I'd try to purchase [i:1odjy79z]The Thousandfold Thought[/i:1odjy79z] through Chapters, if you're nearby one. Decent pricesand good Customer Support. view post
Really?
Where do you live?
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The book is phenomenal. SPOILER I've not finished it yet... The Holy War is at Holy Amoteu, and they just departed to Shimeh. I can't bring myself to read the Battle of Shimeh, because I expect too much out of it. I don't know if the novel can deliver, but I wouldn't be shocked if it does... view post
Well. I'm going to go read the last hundred or so pages, and I'll come back and post my thoughts. view post
You're asking how every single Dunyain can control everything, correct? Because that would include each other. Well, the idea of the Dunyain is that they are the [i:3ed4iotp]Conditioned[/i:3ed4iotp], not the 'all-seeing controllers'. The lifestyle and knowledge of the Dunyain dwarf that of Men. They read emotions, and Dunyain don't generally 'have' emotions. So what could another Dunyain read? view post
I was impressed by the book. The battle scene was amazing - and it had one of the best battles of sorcery I've read thus far. I was a touch saddened by the death of Emperor Ikurei Conphas I - he was one of my favorite characters. But yes, learning that Moenghus is Maithanet's father... and that Moenghus is also Mallahet, was quite interesting. And Cnaiur's confrontation with Moenghus was unexpected. I love how Cnaiur collapsed into insanity. Completely. Did Cnaiur survive? Or did he die? So, let me just double-check something. Are the Consult and Inchorori the same thing? I've got to admit. I was shocked at Drusas Achamian's actions at the end there. Can't wait to see his character in [i:y7m74snu]The Aspect-Emperor[/i:y7m74snu]. view post
Ah, okay. As far as the Scarlet Spires go, I'm not sure if any of them survived at all. I know Eleazeras - the Grandmaster - died. When it was all said and done, Kellhus killed the last five Cishaurim. So I believe that the Scarlet Spires - at least, those who marched on Shimeh - died. I think the Scarlet Spires is now a minor school, if it's a school at all. view post
[quote="Da-krul":18b8p7ef]Re-reading The Thousandfold Thought [/quote:18b8p7ef]
I read the ARC, so I'm going to pick up the finished version and read that tomorrow.
But for now, Deadhouse Gates.
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Yes, that would be reasonable. It would be [i:2dokl5bb]un[/i:2dokl5bb]reasonable to make the argument that God does not issue 'Holy' wars. If the blessings and rules God presents are in fact 'holy', then what distinction separates wars from that? Where's the line between what is 'holy' and what is not? If killing people is bad, then why does God ask it of several of His followers? view post
I think my favorite sport is Mixed Martial Arts. Martial Arts at it's best. But I'll admit I'm not a huge fan of the Ultimate Fighting Championship. Japan has a better organization called Pride Fighting Championships. True pure martial artists compete here, and it's usually a lot more spectacular an event. In the UFC, you have Renato Sobral - pretty good striker, pretty good grappler. Pride has, for example, Ricardo Arona. The best grappler in the world right now, but terrible striker. The saying, 'Jack of all trades, master of none' comes up often when discussing the difference. view post
Conphas was my favorite, too. I think the trilogy ended well. The Prince of Nothing was about 'merely' the Holy War. The Holy War ended, but something bigger is happening. One can only assume that it'll be carried on in The Aspect-Emperor. view post
I have a question about TTT. Did Cnaiur live or die? His 'lover', Moenghus, dies and he passes out and/or dies. Thats all that we hear from him. Plus, if he does die, he'd probably be the first character to not be accompanied by 'Dead came swirling down' description corosponding with his death. view post
Haha I can picture it now. "And the death, collectively, comes swirling down." view post
I bought mine from an Indiglo/Chapters store on the 19th. view post
*pats you on the back* view post
The Tangent will be releasing one of the best progressive rock albums of all time at the beginning of Febraury, called [i:4ceduxdk]A Place in the Queue[/i:4ceduxdk]. I've heard it, many times, so I agree. It's my favorite prog rock album at the moment. view post
Really? Some of the city names have the homage to Lord of the Rings, but I see [i:14gxpgfu]no[/i:14gxpgfu] comparison between Aragorn and Kellhus, or the writing styles. Tolkein's was a kind of flawed descriptive prose while Bakker is much more darkly poetic. view post
[quote="Grallon":2eqiah5y]Someone will have to clarify this for me: the Inchoroi wanted to destroy humans & non men to 'seal the world' ?! Are we talking about a physical phenomenon or a philosophical concept ?[/quote:2eqiah5y] I think it's philosophical - it's their version of a religion. They're saving their souls from being damned. [quote="Grallon":2eqiah5y]Some observations about TTT: - the pacing was not balanced: too much ruminations in the first part for the quickened rythm that followed in the last part; [/quote:2eqiah5y] I didn't mind that. The beginning built the tension of the forthcoming battle, the meeting, and the climax. What else could have happened at the beginning? The Fanim were retreating... [quote="Grallon":2eqiah5y]Some observations about TTT: - though I understand the necessity to set the stage for the next book I felt that Comphas was definately short changed. *scowls*; [/quote:2eqiah5y] I was definately a fan of Conphas, and I hoped he was going to become the Aspect-Emperor. But I can't blame Bakker for killing him. [quote="Grallon":2eqiah5y]Some observations about TTT: - similarly the unexplained falling in line of the entire Mandate behind Khellus was annoying. Entirely too much time was wasted with Achamian's redundant feelings for the whore and Cnaiurs madness while not enough was devoted to fleshing out other sub plots; [/quote:2eqiah5y] Unexplained? When Achamian was talking to Nautzera, he told the Mandate, "Wait until you meet him" or something with the same point. The Mandate were cautious about Kellhus, but they met him and we know the results. I don't know what was so unexplained about it. And which subplots did you want more time fleshing out? [quote="Grallon":2eqiah5y]Some observations about TTT: - by the end of TTT it seem to me Khellus has grown so much - so fast - that the Consult does't look very threatening anymore. One can only imagine what he will be after 20 years of learning/practicing/improvising on the Gnosis... If he trains more like him - why the Second Apocalypse will be a walk in the park. And that's clumsy storytelling to deflate your main villain so fast. [/quote:2eqiah5y] I'm not sure. I don't know if it's clumsy storytelling, as it might have been intentional. But I don't see the Consult any less of a threat. Yes, Kellhus is powerful, but we haven't seen any of the incarnations of the Tekne (Old Science). Keep in mind, the No-God will probably be resurrected, and the Heron Spear is missing. view post
I agree completely. He really gains nothing by killing Achamian. So instead, he wanted to prove his power was considerably equal to Achamian's Gnosis. I expect that will be played off in the Aspect-Emperor. view post
Why would Kellhus be the Harbinger? Moenghus [i:1coert5w]did[/i:1coert5w] come first. view post
Yes. I enjoyed that exchange between Dunyain. I certainly didn't expect Kellhus to begin believing the lies he weaved. view post
Clive Barker - Imajica view post
I have the series in trade paperback. Now, I seek the Malazan Book of the Fallen in trade paperback. view post
I'm slightly curious. What did you expect the appendinces to be? We got 100+ pages of descriptions, historical contexts, and meanings. And you're disappointed? view post
[quote="Erekassos Knerceannis":3kmv6dzh]:o No way the appendices are still great, I've been reading them for the past hour I was just expecting more detailed maps, diagrams, etc. rather than a concise encyclopedia. Don't get me wrong, its still a beautiful thing,
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Ah, I see what you mean.
Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind detailed maps and diagrams, too.
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[quote="rycanada":1ielfvol]I've got TWP and TTT in trade paperback, but I only have this falling-apart mass-market paperback copy of TDTCB. Anyone know where I can get the trade paperback?[/quote:1ielfvol] Try eBay or something. I'm not sure you still can. view post
[quote="Grallon":h51yznz3][quote="Entropic_existence":h51yznz3]... As the Consult/Inchori have said, [b:h51yznz3]kill enough Men/Non-men and it seals of Earwa from the influence of the Outside[/b:h51yznz3], from that point on whenever they died their souls would fade into Oblivion, the Outside would have no hold.[/quote:h51yznz3] And that is where the bone of contention lies. It *is* incoherent to postulate the existence of metaphysical superbeings, as evidenced by their influence through the agency of sentient underbeings, while at the same time making said influence, ergo said deties' very existence, contingent on an arbitrary number of souls. G.[/quote:h51yznz3] You're trying your hardest to find any reason to dislike the story. Why? view post
I'll try out some of the ones that the other guy didn't just answer. [quote="Mithfânion":1bi8cp2x]3) Why does Achamian survive? No explanation is given for this. The Ciphrang beats him and then drags him away into the sky. How does he survive? Or rather, why? If it is as the Ciphrang says and it is only an eye that he came for, as per his Summoner's intstruction (Iyokus), then why does he not lose one? [/quote:1bi8cp2x] Iyokus did not want to kill Achamian, but he wanted to show what he was capable of. He understood the situation in which Achamian took his eyes - he understood why Achamian did it, so he did not take Achamian's. Instead, he proved he's powerful. As far as 'why' Achamian lived, the answer is that Iyokus didn't want to kill him. I think it's obvious that Achamian - a wizard - and Iyokus - the Grandmaster of the Scarlet Spires - will meet again in the next series. [quote="Mithfânion":1bi8cp2x]4) Why did the Ciphrang go to the tent in which Little Moenghus lay, the one guarded by the single Hundred Pillars guardsmen? Presumably to ask after Achamian's whereabouts, as he later does, but the whole scene seemed rather odd to me. [/quote:1bi8cp2x] You answered your own question, so whether or not it seemed weird is irrelevant. [quote="Mithfânion":1bi8cp2x]5) Any idea what the secret could be that the Inchoroi Synthese (Aurang) tells the little boy? [/quote:1bi8cp2x] One can presume that it will influence something later. view post
[quote="unJon":2mofot1l]There is no harbinger. What comes before determines what comes after. There is no prophecy.[/quote:2mofot1l] Thats just a Dunyain theory, not a law. view post
Well, Eleazeras died... view post
...And what does the R stand for? view post
Umm... I get the impression he's referring to [i:sjgfrs42]only[/i:sjgfrs42] the book, The Darkness that Comes Before. Well... there's two more books that make up this trilogy. The Prince of Nothing Trilogy Book 1: The Darkness that Comes Before Book 2: The Warrior-Prophet Book 3: The Thousandfold Thought view post
Wonderful story.
The only thing better, is if you actually knocked him out, over TTT
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*shifts around* ... The walls have eyes... And hands with knives, by the looks of things. view post
[quote="Entropic_existence":39qhky2b]Or maybe he just can't remember because it was heartfelt words said while in a state of grief? [/quote:39qhky2b] It's towards this direction that I lean. view post
I agree, pretty much. It's a logical strategy. view post
I play online games like World of Warcraft (on occasion), or Morrowind - that sort of thing. Never really got into the DnD, or card-based gaming. view post
I have all three in trade paperback.
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Kind of like a "what came first? The chicken or the egg?" argument. Does the Harbringer come and start the Apocalypse, or does the Apocalypse start and he comes to signify it? view post
Does Scott exist anymore? view post
I can see it now. I'll be sitting in a chair at a psychiatrist's office, explaining my obsession with Scott Bakker, and his novels. The doctor will explain that 'Scott Bakker' is just a figmint of my imagination, and no such novels ever existed. view post
Yeah, I pretty much agree. Though I realized the plotline for Eragon was so horrible that I couldn't even imagine, imagining myself considering to ponder the possibility of a chance of me seeing the movie. view post
Well, Kellhus' whole goal was to kill his father. That solves that. view post
Wow. Just, wow. Very informative. I enjoyed the read thoroughly. view post
I've read a ton of books, but the only books I recall that did it for me were Deadhouse Gates and Memories of Ice, both from Steven Erikson. view post
Erikson - House of Chains view post
Ours - Distorted Lullabies view post
I also like Pink Floyd, but I believe some of the best music ever created is the lesser-known bands. Riverside, from Poland, for example. They play a Pink Floyd-y style, but it's completely original and complex, without becoming too much. Porcupine Tree, as well. The compositions they create, in my opinion, are beyond what anyone's ever done. view post
[quote="Jamara":19cz9qti]Okay, here's how I feel about it, and I don't know if it's already been covered (6 pages of responses was just too much for a newbie), but was Cnaiur gay? Yes. Does that mean he got jiggy with any other men other than Moenghus? Probably not.
The Scylvendi held homosexuality as anethema. Heinous. Which is exactly why Conphas had their captives raped by other men at Kiyuth in order to drive them into attacking. Cnaiur so wanted to follow the Path of the People, which included a high level of homophobia, which is why he supressed it within himself. And when one supresses something like that, they tend to be the greatest homophobes. This is why he would kill an uncle for thinking him a homosexual.
And he was not just seduced into being gay, that doesn't happen (at least not without a lot of beer) by Moenghus. Moenghus seduced him into abandoning the way of the People, which allowed him, among other things, to enjoy his natural inclinations. He was gay simply from the entry at the end of TTT (stop reading now if it is a spoiler) . . . (I can wait) . . . in which he enjoys the stronger embrace rather than the gentler of a female. He can feel secure in stronger arms, he can submit, he can be dominated sexually and emotionally.
So yes, he was gay. Did he suppress it for thrity years, take many wives and father many children? Yes, but that is the nature of a suppressed society. He did what he was supposed to, and better than most, because that is what was expected of him.
Does Cnaiur being gay mean that he was still not the fiercest of all men, hell no. In fact it gave him a suppressed anger against all his kinsmen which he could feed on when he was tearing out their entrails. Being a gay man does not mean that you can't be a fierce man.[/quote:19cz9qti]
Fantastic point. Being gay myself, I can actually relate to the realism that many of your points support.
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I'm going out on pure assumption here, and it may be a wild guess. I believe Kellhus isn't evil, but instead actually believes the prophecy of the Second Apocalypse through his name. Hence declaring a Holy War to destroy Golgotterath. His exile of Achamian, I believe, was out of fear more than hate - fear that Achamian is the one who suspects Kellhus as the Harbringer. That said, if Baby Moenghus is, in fact, the child of Kellhus and not Cnaiur, [i:1tph35s7]he[/i:1tph35s7] would be the Harbringer. The prophecy stated that an Anisurimbor will come at the end of the world. Nobody knows how long Kellhus or Moenghus were there, but the child is coming - born of the world, so more in-tune with the prophecy. That's nothing new, but I think that, with the birth, Baby Moenghus will contrast Kellhus, and will grow to be the 'bad guy', so to speak. Perhaps even a reincarnation of the No-God himself. view post
I've never been so successfully proven wrong, yet somewhat-agreed with before
I've heard [i:3fi5seog]The Great Ordeal[/i:3fi5seog] could be released as early as January 2008, with the US release around March.
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It really seems the kids are becoming the focal point here. Moreso than the Consult. view post
Interesting, but I don't think thats possible. At all. view post
Oooh. I'm not sure, either, but that sounds interesting. view post
Never heard of it, but based on your descriptions, she's like probably a hundred other "godlike" reference characters in fantasy and other genres, to this point.
What made Kellhus a Dunyain [i:2jmpjvix]wasn't[/i:2jmpjvix] the qualities you've mentioned. Sure, he possesses them, but he's unique because of his history, and his very powerful development through the novels - introspective looking, and questioning his beliefs.
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It's an interesting topic because this character's inner turmoil is one of the highlights of the series. As such, if you read the other thread on the topic, all of the questions that you asked would be answered. However, to add to the above comment, I think you're right. Bakker made this person gay, but he is not the typical, stereotypical homosexual. view post
[quote="Thorsten":4nt3gwfq]Finally I found out who this Richard Dawkins actually is (admittedly, I didn't really try) and where Tilberian's arguments come from. So, I got myself Dawkins' book 'The God Delusion' and went over Dawkins' arguments in some detail. To cut a long story short, I agree with Dawkins on all trivial counts, but I disagree with him on all the non-trivial things. He starts with the assumption that what he does works in establishing truth, then applies vastly different standards in judging evidence which confirms what he thinks is true as compared to evidence that contradicts what he thinks is true, and as a result he gets out what he puts in. So, I am not really impressed. If anyone should be interested in the long story, I have written up most ideas in an essay [url=http://www.phy.duke.edu/~trenk/various/science_and_god.html:4nt3gwfq]here[/url:4nt3gwfq]. This is a tour through the roots of rationality, Goedel's incompleteness theorem, quantum physics, the consistency principle in the conscious mind, Zen Buddhism, evolution as played out at the quantum scale, non-rational paradigms for decisionmaking and game theory and a few more things, so I am afraid it is not quite easy reading. But then, Mr. Bakker's novels are not really that easy either...[/quote:4nt3gwfq] Whether or not you agree with Richard Dawkins is pretty irrelevant to this discussion, because his arguments are just as valid as are yours. In fact, I would suggest his arguments are [i:4nt3gwfq]more valid[/i:4nt3gwfq], because he actually has a large collection of work to his name. You've read one book, and you think you have an argument against his. Please read more, and you'll understand his "full version" better. The God Delusion simply covers his anti-theism, and you miss out on all of his science. view post