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posts by Zadok Candidate | joined 14 Feb 2006 | 11

posted 14 Feb 2006, 19:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtNostalgia: Fav part of the trilogy? by Zadok, Candidate

I thought the meeting between Cnaiur and Moenghus was especially well done. The perfect end for such a tortured and conflicted character. In a more general sense, I thought the end of the TTT was especially powerful, as I was reading I was so excited I kept having to reign myself in to keep from skimming ahead to see what was coming next. view post

posted 09 May 2006, 13:05 in Literature DiscussionPON vs MBOF vs ASOIAF by Zadok, Candidate

After the mildly disappointing Feast for Crows I would say the PoN series has surpassed ASoIaF, at least for the time being. I too was suprised with the vitrol that some over at the Malazan forum attacked the books. It was like we had read 2 different series. Although the fact that many of them had not read TTT yet probably had something to do with this. Reading the Malazan books has been a weird experience for me, I'm not sure exactly what it is, it may be the fact that each book is more like a self contained novel more then a part of a series, or if Erikson's writing is just unever, but with each of the 4 books I've read so far the result has been the same. I'll slog through the first half of the book, forcing myself to continue, and finally get absolutely hooked as the climax approaches, devouring the last half very quickly. Then I start on the next book and end up putting it down for something else until I have the desire to give it another shot. Even realizing this I still find it tough to get into each novel, even as I find myself in awe of the ending every time. view post

posted 09 May 2006, 17:05 in Literature DiscussionPON vs MBOF vs ASOIAF by Zadok, Candidate

[quote="Entropic_existence":26yqbfis] Ericksons intention was to write each book as a self-contained novel that neverhteless can't truly be read and enjoyed fully outside of the context of the series. Other than Gardens I haven't had that feeling of having to slog through the first half, although the pacing for those always is much much slower. But you're right, boy does it turn around as it builds to the climax. I usually actually get adrenaline rushes reading some of the action-packed scenes near the end. Especially when Kalam goes on a spree somewhere :) I enjoyed Feast for Crows, but I was glad I knew before hand it was in reality only half the story, with Dance for Dragons telling the stories of the other characters. I would have been dissapointed otherwise I think. Martin tells a good story but there always seems to be that little something missing and I think it is the lack of real battles. He knows he can't write them well, so seems to either ignore them or just gloss over them and give the results of what happened through other means. But at least he knows his limitations. If he attempted to write them it would throw off the quality of the overall book too much I think.[/quote:26yqbfis] Slog was probably the wrong word. I think Erikson takes a little longer in developing and fleshing out his characters then I'm used to(not to mention having a huge cast), and that is probably a factor in the slow starts as well. Also, I tend to find myself wondering just what the hell is going on at the start of each book, and once the picture starts to become clear my enjoyment ramps up. It really is an unconventional series in this sense, I hear the D&D criticism alot from people that couldn't make it through GotM, but when you have moments like the Chain of Dogs, and the seige of Capustan and the whole Iktovian arc I don't think it really holds water :D I think the delay between books is starting to take it's toll on both the story and the fans of Martin. I started reading the series about the time SoS came out, and the wait for aFFC was almost unbearable, I can only imagine how the people that got into aGoT when it was first released are feeling. view post

posted 11 May 2006, 02:05 in Literature DiscussionPON vs MBOF vs ASOIAF by Zadok, Candidate

The most common complaint over at malazan seems to revolve around Kellhus and his power level compared to the rest of the world. I guess specifically that Kellhus wasn't actively battling the Consult for most of the series. I found Malazan fans complaining about a characters power level a little bit ironic but to each his own. The one criticism I heard from a few people that really boggled my mind was that the characters were poorly developed. One guy even made a comment that made me laugh, about how the women were so weak in PoN, and how some of the females in Malazan could "take" the men in PoN :roll: view post

posted 11 May 2006, 16:05 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Fate of Conphas by Zadok, Candidate

He did survive Achamian's attack, however he was ridden down by Saubon and his army almost immediately after this. I don't have the book in front of me so I can't give you an exact page number right now. view post

posted 15 May 2006, 12:05 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Fate of Conphas by Zadok, Candidate

[quote="anor277":3s8wl9yk]I think we've reached a consensus there. Conphas is dead. The scene early in the novel when Conphas confronts Kellhus as the prophet, and Kellhus picks apart Conphas' pretensions and personality was brilliantly dramatic. And it couldn't have happened to a more deserving moral degenerate.[/quote:3s8wl9yk] I thought this scene was very interesting, in that much of what is "wrong" with Conphas could be applied to Kellhus as well, except of course for his false pride. I think Conphas would've made a excellent Dunyain if he had the training from when he was a child. view post

posted 18 May 2006, 12:05 in The Thousandfold ThoughtKellhus=Machiavellianism by Zadok, Candidate

based on this definition: [quote:32n8stmq] They believe the best way to get by is to use deception, rewards, promises, flattery, and even punishments to manipulate others into doing their bidding. To them, power may be more important than love.[/quote:32n8stmq] i think you'd have to say that Kellhus certainly is. however this is a rather broad definition. i believe Conphas would be classified as a "high mach" as well, and as we've seen Kellhus and Conphas operate quite differently. view post

posted 19 May 2006, 13:05 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe consult/Dunyain alliance? by Zadok, Candidate

I don't think the Dunyain would side with the Consult to avoid damnation, rather because the Outside is a force that cannot be controlled or dominated. As such it is an obstacle to their goal of creating a self moving soul. Also, the entire human population need not be wiped out to close off the outside. So the Dunyain training could proceed as it had before, after all they are almost completely isolated anyway. view post

posted 31 May 2006, 18:05 in The Thousandfold ThoughtCnaiur by Zadok, Candidate

I believe Scott has as much as said in one of the Q&A threads about Cnaiur that he is dead. Aside from that I don't see how someone as crazy as Cnaiur could go on after finally achieving the goal that he had been obsessing about for most of his life, that he never thought he would actually accomplish. I think the completed the arc of his character perfectly. Of course we may "see" him as a skin spy ala Serwe, but that won't really be Cnaiur. view post

posted 14 Jun 2006, 12:06 in Off-Topic DiscussionVictory! by Zadok, Candidate

i've gotten a few people to read it so far. if it was someone that wasn't normally a fantasy reader i'd rec Martin first(who most people seem to have at least heard of) and then get them to read Bakker next :twisted: view post

posted 14 Jun 2006, 18:06 in Literature DiscussionTerry Goodkind engages in rape fantasy? by Zadok, Candidate

i'm glad mystar has come to offer us a respite from the petty schoolyard bullies and childish name calling. *cough* view post


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