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Question to R.S. regarding release dates. posted 01 Feb 2004, 23:02 in Author Q & AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Mithfânion, Didact

Greetings one and all! First, I must say I'm happy to see that this series has it's own forum at last, nice to be here at the beginning since I expect this series to become truly major once the UK and US releases have commenced, possibly even Erikson/Martin/Hobb scale. And tres cool that the author is posting here! Anyway, I have two or three pressing questions regarding the release dates. First and foremost, The Warrior Prophet. The April 27th release date that your website mentions, is that still correct? It seems not to be, because both Penguin.ca and amazon.ca now have a Mid-June release date. Some clarification here would be great. Also, I'm very curious about the size of WP. Same size as TDTCB? secondly, what is the title of the third book and when in 2005 will it be released? Have you seen the cover art for that one yet ( more specifically, what colour is it?) Thirdly, will the trade paperback of [b:2hy0pxid]"The Darkness that comes before"[/b:2hy0pxid] go out of print once the small mass market paperback is released in April this year? I'd really appreciate answers to these questions :) view post


posted 02 Feb 2004, 00:02 in Author Q & ALanguage by Mithfânion, Didact

Ah, good taste is always a good sign in an author. Here's another lost soul who's been slowly wasting away waiting for Feast for Crows. As for Tolkien, what he did with languages is just Über-intelligent, I'm so big a fan of his that I've even read The History of Middle-earth series. view post


posted 02 Feb 2004, 06:02 in Author Q & AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Mithfânion, Didact

Thanks for the replies guys. Well, I hope we'll hear something definitive about the Warrior Prophet release date very soon. [i:2pfcom40]I've been been debating between When Sorcerers Sing and, as Wil mentions, The Thousandfold Thought[/i:2pfcom40] The Thousandfold Thought. Definitly ;) view post


Warrior Prophet synopsis *Possible Spoiler* posted 02 Feb 2004, 16:02 in The Warrior ProphetWarrior Prophet synopsis *Possible Spoiler* by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:9f72ux1x]As the Holy War continues its inexorable southward march, it is itself conquered from within-by the Warrior-Prophet. Able to see thoughts through faces and to steer souls through word and expression, Kellhus strives to extend his dominion. The sorcerer Achamian and his lover, Esmenet, submit entirely, only to have their faith-and their love-tested in unimaginable ways. Meanwhile, the warrior Cnaiür falls ever deeper into madness, convinced Kellhus will betray their pact to murder Kellhus's father. n the Holy War's most desperate hour, each will be forced to choose between their most desperate desires and the end of the world. Between hatred and hope. Between Anasurimbor Kellhus and the Second Apocalypse. [/i:9f72ux1x] and: [i:9f72ux1x]Steering souls through the subtleties of word and expression, Anasûrimbor Kellhus gradually extends his dominion over the Men of the Tusk. Succumbing utterly to Kellhus, the sorcerer Achamian is reunited at long last with Esmenet, only to be abducted by a rival sorcerous school. He rejoins the Holy War in its most desperate hour, only to discover that Kellhus has taken Esmenet as his wife. Meanwhile, the warrior Cnaiur, convinced that Kellhus will betray their pact to murder Kellhus's father, turns to the agents of the Second Apocalypse and strikes an infernal bargain. [/i:9f72ux1x] view post


posted 02 Feb 2004, 17:02 in The Warrior ProphetWarrior Prophet synopsis *Possible Spoiler* by Mithfânion, Didact

The publisher's site :) view post


Darkness that comes before synopsis posted 02 Feb 2004, 17:02 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeDarkness that comes before synopsis by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:15w1ze0c]In a world scarred by an apocalyptic past, untold thousands assemble for holy war. Among them, two men and two women find themselves ensnared by a mysterious traveller from lands long thought dead. Will they unravel his secret in time to prevent a second apocalypse? Will they see the difference between the passion that elevates and the passion that enslaves?[/i:15w1ze0c] and [i:15w1ze0c] This is a history of a great and tragic holy war, of the mighty factions that sought to possess and pervert it, and of a son searching for his father. And like all histories, it is we, the survivors, who will write its conclusion. In a world scarred by an apocalyptic past, untold thousands gather for Holy War, determined to wrest the Holy City of the Latter Prophet from the hands of their heathen kin. Among them walks Anasûrimbor Kellhus, a mysterious traveler from lands long thought dead, the product of two thousand years of breeding and a lifetime of training in the ways of thought, limb, and face. Steering souls through the subtleties of word and expression, he slowly binds all-man and woman, emperor and slave-to his own mysterious ends.[/i:15w1ze0c] view post


posted 02 Feb 2004, 18:02 in Literature DiscussionFantasy by Mithfânion, Didact

I've never read "Sandkings", I've heard several people say good things about it but it's hard to find a Martin collection that carries it and is still in print. There is a Locus Awards book coming out in June which will probably contain this short story though, among many others. As for ASOIAF, certainly it's a breath of fresh air. I'm very fond of it, love the brutality, the gritty feel of it as well as the dialogues and the characterization. Martin is adept at virtually all aspects of Fantasy writing. The only aspect which I have been less than satisfied with sofar is his very subdued use of magic. It is coming more to the fore with the books to come, but sofar it has been a bit too suppressed for me to be pleased by this aspect of his Fantasy books. With regard to Tolkien, you just have to love his Elves. His history of the First Age is just so phenomenal, I really think it's mindblowing material . I personally find the Silmarillion a more exciting story than the LoTR because of the vastness of scope, the great inherent power of some of the characters, the sense of etherealness, the cruelty of fate, the drama of so many individuals in the context of the Great Wars, the remarkable beauty of Middle-earth. Hard to surpass that. view post


posted 02 Feb 2004, 18:02 in Literature DiscussionFantasy by Mithfânion, Didact

Agreed. People's mileage varies enormously when it comes to magic. I'm not looking for cheap Dungeons & Dragons style stuff, but I have to say I love the signicant dosis of Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen. There has to be consistency anyway, whether it is scarce or not. I think limiting powerful magic to a restricted few, and offsetting that against normal humans is probably a good way to add the mystique of magic to your tale.It's easy to make it too abundant, but as you say, you don't want it to become straight historical fiction or even alternative history either. view post


Best character posted 02 Feb 2004, 20:02 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeBest character by Mithfânion, Didact

Who do you think is the best character of the series sofar, and why? view post


posted 03 Feb 2004, 16:02 in Author Q & AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Mithfânion, Didact

Any news yet regarding the release of WP? view post


posted 03 Feb 2004, 16:02 in The Warrior ProphetAbout the books by Mithfânion, Didact

Hi Bryan A sense of awe is precisely what is missing in so many Fantasy books and hearing that this is one of your brother's fortes is precisely what I want to hear. view post


posted 03 Feb 2004, 19:02 in Off-Topic DiscussionWoh! by Mithfânion, Didact

I do, looks very nice. view post


posted 03 Feb 2004, 21:02 in Author Q & AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Mithfânion, Didact

It certainly is. :) Still, it is a bit confusing isn't it? Penguin and Canada saying it is June 11th or 13th, the website saying April 27th. I take it May 20th is definite then? view post


posted 03 Feb 2004, 23:02 in Author Q & AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Mithfânion, Didact

In that case it might be sensible to contact the publisher and alert them to the fact they have it listed one month too late. As long as they don't change the date we're unlikely to be buying any Warrior Prophets at May 20th. view post


posted 04 Feb 2004, 16:02 in Author Q & AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Mithfânion, Didact

Yes, it happens a lot. For instance Tad Williams's Shadowmarch was scheduled for Spring 2004, and now it's November. It's not often that it happens so close to the expected release date though. No reason to be embarrassed anyway, you finished the book and can hardly be blamed for the strange behaviour on the publisher's part ( by strange I mean primarily postponing the book for no apparent reason and even more for not even telling the author, I would think he/she would be the first one to be informed). view post


posted 05 Feb 2004, 19:02 in Author Q & AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Mithfânion, Didact

No, it certainly isn't bad, in fact delays don't come much smaller than that. Excellent news in fact 8) view post


posted 05 Feb 2004, 23:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Title by Mithfânion, Didact

I agree, that's why I prefer TTT as well. It's quite a marvellous title actually. Reminds me of Donaldson's Gap Cycle, that series has such cool individual titles as well. view post


posted 05 Feb 2004, 23:02 in Author Q & AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Mithfânion, Didact

Sovin, in case you didn't know, the US edition will be a hardcover :) I prefer trade paperbacks myself, it's got the stature of a hardback but the nice (weighty) feel of a thick paperback. view post


posted 07 Feb 2004, 09:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Title by Mithfânion, Didact

Good points Bandit. view post


posted 07 Feb 2004, 09:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Title by Mithfânion, Didact

forum error. view post


posted 07 Feb 2004, 22:02 in Author Q & ACurious if you... by Mithfânion, Didact

Alternatively, this book has had a lot of buzz on certain Fantasy forums. In case Locus actually gave it a bad review a few months ago, they may have yielded to the overwhelming amount of positive reviews by many readers, and listed it here. If they had wanted to fully endorse the book they could have listed it in the "Best Fantasy" category as well. Not that I want to dampen any enthusiasm btw ;) view post


posted 08 Feb 2004, 09:02 in Author Q & ACurious if you... by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:3ayli9ak]I'm amazed, for instance, by how many people suddenly seem to have a hate on for tLotR.[/i:3ayli9ak] It's the popularity, as you say. Some people seem to have an automatically negative response to things that quickly become popular. As an Orthodox Tolkienite ( :oops: ) I can't say I'm too pleased with all the LoTR marketing and publicizing either, all coming forth from the dreaded New Line Hype Machine (LoTR dolls, cups, spoons, plates, action figures, medallions and perhaps worst of all, fake The One Rings), but I don't see why I should dislike the original for it. But that happens often. Something becomes big with the masses and there are always people who will want to distinguish themselves by immediately assuming their contrarian opinions. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that many of the sudden LoTR-naysayers hadn't even read the book (though I can see why they would dislike the films after having seen them). view post


posted 09 Feb 2004, 19:02 in Author Q & ACurious if you... by Mithfânion, Didact

As I must have said before, I think the design is just tres cool. I simply don't exaggerate when I say that in terms of feel and design this is the best Fantasy book I own (and I own many). The script in particular is very nice. I have two editions of the LoTR, one of them is my favorite of all the many editions and has the Gandalf cover (of him arriving at Hobbiton, drawn by Howe), but even that doesn't rival TDTCB. Having said that, I dislike quotes like the one you mentioned (out-Tolkiening Tolkien being pretty poor). I realize the boasting is all part of the marketing and books need to have some blurbs, but perhaps it's better not to reference to other authors and instead comment on the book's genre strengths. view post


posted 10 Feb 2004, 17:02 in Author Q & ACurious if you... by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:5ss6df66]In the marketing discussions I've been privy to, the emphasis has been on marketing PoN as 'upscale,' as something that readily identifies itself as genre fiction with a literary bent. [/i:5ss6df66] A correct assessment from the publisher I think. I also agree that much of Epic Fantasy's ridicule comes from the sanitized content which makes even hardcore fans of Epic High Fantasy squirm and stutter. Authors who are able to step away from the extremely formulaic story and are able to provide a grittier story while still maintaining fantastic elements and a vast sense of wonder have the future imo (so as not the make the story simply bleak). I don't think Tolkienesque Fantasy needs to be abandoned (as New Weird writers like Mieville, Vandermeer, Ford, Cockayne etc do), but it needs to change. view post


posted 10 Feb 2004, 22:02 in Author Q & ACurious if you... by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:1i4hikud]I agree entirely, though I took quite a thrashing for suggesting as much on a Talkback forum some time ago - by none other than M. John Harrison, no less! [/i:1i4hikud] An M. John Harrison btw, whose dreary Urban Fantasy/New Weird books I find utterly uncompelling. I'll just say that I am not at all surprised you would find yourself at odds with him. He is one of the prime writers of the New Weird style and that category dismisses quite a lot which you yourself seem to like. These are precisely the people who are entertaining themselves with being different, changing for the sake of change. It is no surprise to me that writers such as Harrison and China Mieville are dismissive of Tolkienesque Fantasy, it is precisely what they are trying to get away from. Ever heard Mieville go off on Tolkien? He really can't stand him, there are two or three "essays" of his on Tolkien, here's a snippet I dug up through Google: [i:1i4hikud]"Tolkien is the wen on the arse of fantasy literature. His oeuvre is massive and contagious - you can't ignore it, so don't even try. The best you can do is consciously try to lance the boil. And there's a lot to dislike - his cod-Wagnerian pomposity, his boys-own-adventure glorying in war, his small-minded and reactionary love for hierarchical status-quos, his belief in absolute morality that blurs moral and political complexity. Tolkien's clichés - elves 'n' dwarfs 'n' magic rings - have spread like viruses. He wrote that the function of fantasy was 'consolation', thereby making it an article of policy that a fantasy writer should mollycoddle the reader..............Tolkien’s worldview was resolutely rural, petty bourgeois, conservative, anti-modernist, misanthropically Christian and anti-intellectual."[/i:1i4hikud] Of course, his political views are diametrically opposed to Tolkiens, which has everything to do with it. Personally I really dislike the Urban Fantasy stuff they write. Why? Because it endeavours to be grotesque, to be bizarre, and everything is so horribly blurry, instead of inspiring a sense of true etherealness. The world feels dreamish, sometimes even having different blurry planes about which nothing at all is explained, perhaps even entered by whimsical magic mirrors and portals. It's translucent. I like decent worldbuilding with proper detailed and vast history, a world which takes me back to a different time. Also magic never works for me in Urban Fantasy. And I have yet to read a more overwritten book than Mervyn Peake's ghastly Gormenghast. Anyway, I think that it is correct to say that Fantasy has arrived at something of a crossroads, perhaps it's even passed and made it's decision. There are those who will continue writing Tolkien clones, there are those who will try to re-invent Epich High Fantasy within the established context and there are those who will veer off into entirely different directions. view post


posted 11 Feb 2004, 11:02 in Author Q & ACurious if you... by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:qb2mu0b4]I think Harrison is overeacting at Tolkien. It's like hatemail how he wrote about the books. It's a little difficult to take him serious like this[/i:qb2mu0b4] Well, note that it was Mieville, not Harrison that I quoted. [i:qb2mu0b4]Not everything has to be described thorough or explained. In real life you can't come up with a explantion for everything either[/i:qb2mu0b4] Not everything has to be blurry either :) As usual it comes down to personal preference, I like mystery and not everything needs to be revealed as the story is progressing but I do want to have most things resolved at the end, because I just don't feel the pay-off if that doesn't happen. I like descriptions of characters, of landscapes etc. Authors that don't make an effort at creating a vivid image of the world or the character don't work for me. [i:qb2mu0b4]The degree of realism may vary and because it is fantasy, there is a license to give your imagination a free run without giving everything s scientific reason. [/i:qb2mu0b4] I wouldn't call for a scientific explanation in Fantasy either, but I don't see a problem with explaining mysteries. Magic should be elusive in Fantasy, but still be internally consistent and there should at least be some explanation of for instance a hierarchy of users, the different types of magic, the consequences of it's use etc. It makes the Fantasy richer. [i:qb2mu0b4]I can find it sometimes tedious to read pages of history, when if you don't read it, it wouldn't make much of a difference. [/i:qb2mu0b4] That it has to blend in with the narrative instead of overwhelm it goes without saying. [i:qb2mu0b4]Magic.. Hmm. I don't mind magic..But I think I prefer fantasy with a limited amount of magic, or practical none. Magic is often done to easy. The characters don't seem to have any problem with it, don't get tired, not any side effect and can do all amazing things with keen control. That is too much, it's beyond realism, if you want your book to have a degree of realism within the fantasy world. [/i:qb2mu0b4] Well you're talking about the magic in Dungeons & Dragons games and novels. I don't like that either, for a variety of reasons. Having said that, unlike you I prefer High Fantasy with greater amounts of magic to low amounts, for instance I prefer the use of magic in Steven Erikson's books to George RR Martin's. I see what you mean about magic going overboard, but I think that the problem doesn't lie with large amounts of magic but rather with not showing the consquences of such abilities in a realistic manner. When you *do* show that, large amounts of magic are all the more impressive for it. It's the same with fighters in for instance the RA Salvatore Forgotten Realms novels or Martial arts films in which warriors take twenty blows to the head and two knives in their chest and still don't go down. [/i] view post


posted 11 Feb 2004, 15:02 in Author Q & ACurious if you... by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:3kg4faou]As far as Urban fantasy with more magical/mystical elements, I like de Lint for that[/i:3kg4faou] Can you give any examples? I've encountered him a couple of times but the combination of him writing Urban Fantasy and the fact that he only writes books with a signifcantly female-dominated cast have put me off sofar. view post


posted 11 Feb 2004, 18:02 in Philosophy DiscussionOn The Warrior Prophet by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:3qie4rpx]Part of the reason I was late with TWP was that I took the spring of 2003 out to write a short sci-fi psychothriller that had been gnawing at me for several years, the idea being to follow the hole all the way down - to horrify people intellectually as well as emotionally.[/i:3qie4rpx] You have a penchant for going off on tangents ;) What happened to the story? Will it come out? [i:3qie4rpx]now that science is making the neuroscientific inroads it is (mark me, in ten years time neuroscience will eclipse genetics as the social 'hot-button' issue), it's looking more and more obvious that we are no exception, that we're the last remnants of the fantasy world inhabited by our ancestors[/i:3qie4rpx] Could you elaborate a bit? I'm not really up to date with this stuff though I want to be, but what neuroscientific inroads do you refer to and why do you think it will become a major issue, topping even genetics? [i:3qie4rpx]All I can say is that there's simply HAS to be something more (without being able to say what that 'something' is) if we're to be anything other than complex biomechanisms deluded into thinking purpose, morality, love, and so on, are anything but delusions. [/i:3qie4rpx] I can't follow the phrase, I do apologize. If there is no God or something else higher than us, what do you think that means? That love and morality are delusions? If so, why do these emotions require the presence of a higher being? view post


posted 11 Feb 2004, 18:02 in Author Q & AQuestion to R.S. regarding release dates. by Mithfânion, Didact

I find it a bit disconcerting that Amazon and Penguin are still listing TWP as a Mid-June release. Perhaps they haven't updated yet? view post


posted 11 Feb 2004, 18:02 in Author Q & ACurious if you... by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:2t8j4eja]All these notions of the carnivalesque, ontologically subversive doubling, the 'decentred self,' aesthetics of fragmentation, and so on, just strike me as trite.[/i:2t8j4eja] I must admit, you've finally lost me there :? view post


Other authors you enjoy posted 11 Feb 2004, 19:02 in Author Q & AOther authors you enjoy by Mithfânion, Didact

I've read you like Tolkien, and Martin as well, but are there are other authors, both in and outside of the genre that you're really fond off? If so, could you say why? Alternatively, are there also authors within and outside Fantasy that you've been really disappointed with, or would you rather not go into that? view post


posted 11 Feb 2004, 22:02 in Author Q & AOther authors you enjoy by Mithfânion, Didact

The mention of Caitlin Sweet is interesting. From the beginning I've seen some booksites couple that book to TDTCB, and having read a synopsis and some reviews I have no idea why. A friend of mine who reads a truly astonishing amount of Fantasy books per year listed her book in his 2003 top 10, which aroused my curiosity even more. Still, there appears to be no sign yet of a UK or US release. I think you touch on a very interesting aspect, that of certain author''s most peculiar popularity. As puzzling as their blatant success can be (Jordan and Goodkind are good examples, Eddings and Brooks are of similar stock), the interesting thing for me is to make a small attempt at understanding why this could possibly so. For instance, while both Jordan and Goodkind receive regular trashings at many internet forums and columns, both these authors are incredibly popular here in the Netherlands, and people actually think very highly of the books as well as huge sales figures (as opposed to the rest of the online community, where, despite the fact J&G's books sell equally well, there is a [b:2bbhdnb6]lot[/b:2bbhdnb6] of criticism on their writing). Personally I've read Eye of the World and it instinctively rubbed me the wrong way. Very very poor. I've not tried Goodkind, but he's always listed with Brooks and Eddings who are both authors of the sanitized and juvenile Fantasy variety. Anyway, in the end I always conclude that they most be catering to the lowest common denominator and therefore appeal to so many, whereas I simply don't go for that kind of story/level. Wolfe, I've got The Book of New Sun on my shelf, looking forward to that one. I've read The Sunne in Splendour by Penman, which was excellent and often said to be her best work, along with her Wales trilogy. Any thoughts on fellow Canadians Kay and Erikson? Any Sci-fi? I don't quite know why but I could see you veer off into Space opera one day. view post


posted 11 Feb 2004, 22:02 in Philosophy DiscussionOn The Warrior Prophet by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:nfpixtea] I have to complete TTT by this September 30th and I'm hellbent to do so... [/i:nfpixtea] Yes, let that one have first priority :!: Thanks for the elucidation on Neuroscience, I find that very interesting. Funny how one can be so drawn to mythical Fantasy worlds that inspire otherness and escapism yet at the same time be so interested in the future developments of this world. Perhaps there's an obvious connection ( a desire to be anything but here? But that would be too harsh). I see what you mean now on the issue of science unravelling character. But what did you mean earlier about atheists jumping ship if they knew how deep the rabbit-hole goes? view post


posted 12 Feb 2004, 20:02 in Author Q & ACurious if you... by Mithfânion, Didact

Well here's a link: http://www.ttapress.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi I tried to look for the Epic Fantasy thread but couldn't locate it. I see several writers post there, as Scott said. view post


posted 16 Feb 2004, 22:02 in Author Q & AWhat are you most looking forward to? by Mithfânion, Didact

I agree that possible new places are on of the most tantalizing things, but at the same time I hasten to add that I'd rather have a few exquistitely crafted and finely detailed people and places than a very large cast of characters and cultures which are only superficially touched upon. It's very important to really put a lot into such a culture, because it's one remarkable people that you will remember much sooner than a whole slew of superficial ones. In general, things I am very interested in range from the Anasurimbor line to the Nonmen, to the Nonmen city and the magic in Earwa, to the religious forces coming to the fore as well as specific individuals which may emerge. And of course Mog-Pharau himself. Edit: That was one horribly structured post but I can't be bothered to re-write :) view post


posted 18 Feb 2004, 19:02 in The Darkness That Comes Beforekellhus == good guy?? by Mithfânion, Didact

Anasurimbor Kellhus has to rank up there in my all-time top three of favoriet characters. Whenever I think of him it's an image of some lone figure standing on a hill, cloak and hair blowing in the wind, ominous aura included. Just seems to fit :) view post


posted 21 Feb 2004, 07:02 in Author Q & AMen v. Nonmen by Mithfânion, Didact

I'm curious about this ancient Nonmen King, from which you take your screenname. Is he only a legend or is he still alive at the time of our story? view post


posted 21 Feb 2004, 20:02 in Author Q & AMen v. Nonmen by Mithfânion, Didact

Sounds awesome. I hope you can pull that off. How's TTT going btw? Things going in the direction that you want? Will there be anything that will differentiate it from the previous two books in any way that one might not expect? view post


posted 23 Feb 2004, 20:02 in Author Q & AThe Inchoroi and the Sranc by Mithfânion, Didact

I saw in the appendices that the Nonmen weren't able to communicate with their enemies until the Inchoroi "birthed mouths". I find that highly intriguing. Also interesting to note that the Nonmen in their own capital speak a different language from those in other parts of Earwa, that is unless I misunderstand the appendices at that point. Kind of reminds me of Minas Tirith, capital of Gondor, were Quenya (High Elven) was still spoken whereas it had vanished almost everywhere else, certainly among mortals.[/i] view post


posted 23 Feb 2004, 20:02 in Author Q & ADunyain by Mithfânion, Didact

But there are still some Dunyians left,right? view post


posted 23 Feb 2004, 22:02 in Author Q & ADunyain by Mithfânion, Didact

Had I mentioned yet that I want TWP NOW? :D view post


posted 28 Feb 2004, 08:02 in Author Q & AEating Crow by Mithfânion, Didact

Well they do say wisdom comes with time. [i:3bpxpxb9]Just received my February Locus magazine[/i:3bpxpxb9] Ah, I see I'm not the only one who gets his Locus so late in the month that next month's edition is just a few days from coming out :roll: view post


SFSite recommended reading list posted 28 Feb 2004, 23:02 in Interviews and ReviewsTDTCB Makes Locus's "Recommended" List by Mithfânion, Didact

And mentioned here in the 2003 recommended reading list by SFSite's William Thompson, as a book which would probably have made his list. http://www.sfsite.com/lists/william2003.htm Nice list btw, very extensive. view post


Thorough review of TDTCB (MAJOR SPOILERS) posted 29 Feb 2004, 09:02 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeThorough review of TDTCB (MAJOR SPOILERS) by Mithfânion, Didact

Books in Canada "R.Scott Bakker’s The Darkness that Comes Before: Book One of The Prince of Nothing is a deep meditation on philosophy, religion and the state of our world. At the same time it is a top notch exemplar of the fantasy romance sub-genre. Bakker’s interest in philosophy becomes apparent from the start. He opens with an epigraph from Nietzsche’s Beyond Good and Evil, and the first character we meet, Anasûrimbor Kellhus, is an embodiment of Nietsche’s ideals. Nietzsche argued, among other things, that independence is for the strong, that “There are heights of the soul seen from which even tragedy ceases to be tragic,” and that the search for truth cannot be done humanely. Bakker’s Kellhus not only shares these views, they are the essential stuff of his character. That such Nietzschean attitudes exert a certain irresistible pull is undeniable, and this accounts for the exquisite darkness Bakker weaves through his story. As Kellhus, raised by the ascetic survivors of the First Apocalypse, the Dûnyain, begins his impossible quest, he proves himself a superman of Nietzschean dimensions, with a steely conscience and a heart made of brass. What, Bakker seems to be asking, would happen to a man who is physically and mentally superior when he, as Nietzsche puts it, assumes the displeasure of trafficking with ordinary men? Yet Kellhus soon finds himself faced with another claimant to the mantle of the superman, the Scylvendi barbarian Cnaiür urs Skiötha. He, more than Kellhus, represents the Dionysian aspect of the superman Nietzsche dreamed of with great relish-a man for whom all is permitted, as all is permitted in nature. Kellhus gains his superhuman abilities from Dûnyain philosophy that attempts to master the deterministic principle of the ‘Logos’ and strives for a Schopenhauerian denial of desire that Nietzsche would have frowned upon even as he’d be marvelling at the supermen the Dûnyain had become. Cnaiür, on the other hand-as his “prize”, the concubine Serwë comes to realize-looks “down on all outlanders as though from the summit of some godless mountain.” Like Kellhus, he is beyond morality, but unlike Kellhus he indulges his “bestial appetites.” Bakker paints a picture of two supermen with divergent philosophical perspectives, and the reader is left to wonder which of these is the more monstrous-the one who is brutal in his appetites, a Dionysian beyond good and evil like a force of nature--or the one who manipulates those around him as if they were chess pieces while single-mindedly pursuing his own goal, committing and permitting acts of cruelty, heartlessly capitalizing on the hopes and fears of the “herd” around him? While some might wonder what would motivate Bakker to revisit a philosophy of morality which seems to have been thoroughly discredited in the hands of the Nazis, the fact remains that the debate-between those inclined to see a certain rightness in a Nietzschean outlook, in accordance with which the “superior” individual or group of individuals is permitted, nay obligated, to arrogate superior rights to himself or themselves, and those who see morality as derived from maxims such as those set out by Kant (whom Nietzsche vilified), who argued that wishing others well was a human duty whether or not one liked the others-has not been wholly put to rest, particularly in the arena of international politics, the realpolitik. Bakker, while pondering these Nietzschean supermen, also constructs a fascinating civilization from which such individuals emerge: His sub-created world of Eärwa lurches into Holy War. Maithanet, the Shriah of the Thousand Temples (the linguistic markers of whose name and title suggest Islam), declares what is essentially a Crusade to regain the lost holy city where the Latter Prophet, Inri Sejenus (whose name suggests the crucified Christ), taught. While the Thousand Temples is an attempt to reconcile all religions by declaring all deities ‘aspects of the God’, it is the Kianene, whose culture is modelled on that of the pantheistic Hindus, who are the strict monotheists of Eärwa and who reject the teaching of the Latter Prophet (and who also happen to possess the holy city where he taught, Shimeh). Bakker strengthens the identification between the Thousand Temples and the Abrahamic religions with his interchangeable use of the terms “holy war” and “jihad” and by describing the capital of the Thousand Temples in a fashion that evokes Jerusalem. By incorporating Goddess worship and a Germanic tree-worshipping element, Bakker also makes clear that the object of his meditation is not any specific religion, but the religious impulse itself. Bakker has at least one glove off when he offers an epigraph from Ajencis, an ancient Eärwan philosopher, at the start of Chapter Fifteen: “Faith is the truth of passion. Since no passion is more true than another, faith is the truth of nothing.” In that chapter the sorcerer-spy from the ridiculed Mandate school of sorcery, Drusas Achamian lectures the pious crusader Proyas on the nature of faith: “There’s faith that knows itself as faith, Proyas, and there’s faith that confuses itself for knowledge. The first embraces uncertainty, acknowledges the mysteriousness of the God. It begets compassion and tolerance. Who can entirely condemn when they’re not entirely certain they’re in the right? But the second, Proyas, the second embraces certainty and only pays lip service to the God’s mystery. It begets intolerance, hatred, violence….” In such moments particularly, but throughout the work generally, Bakker demonstrates a fine control over the literary conventions of romance and fantasy. He knows that the romance hero is to be the carrier of the values of the reader, and he plays with the time-honoured rule of creating a hero who is unrecognized nobility, the heir to a lost throne, and, of course, young and handsome. His shifting of the action from Kellhus to the low-born, portly and middle-aged Drusas Achaiman defies conventions associated with romance heroes from Sir Gawain to Luke Skywalker. And, in Cnaiür’s unapologetic carnality (and that of other characters, notably Esmenet and Serwë), Bakker’s fantasy further shows its contemporariness. Yet, despite these aspects to his work, he may yet be out of step with current fantasy audiences. Guy Haley makes the matter-of-fact assertion in the pages of SFX Magazine that fantasy is more and more becoming female-audience-driven and this accounts for the soap-opera flavour of successes in the genre since the 80s. Bakker does achieve the soap opera effect in giving us characters we want to follow, but he undermines his own effort to reach out to a female audience by making his only three female characters all appear whorish. That there is some element of truth in the depictions of Esmenet, Serwë, and Istriya, grand dam of House Ikurei of the Nansur Empire, that women will be able to connect with is something that Bakker is gambling on. There is another potential problem with the book: there’s no conclusion. Bakker leaves us hanging in the midst of an action scene and offers an unsatisfying epilogue populated entirely by characters who have never appeared before and who ponder the significance of the book’s final, unfinished events. In this way, Bakker fails to demonstrate the whole of the storyteller’s craft-i.e. the ability to bring a story to a resounding, exhilarating and real conclusion. He makes things even harder on himself because, by buying into the multi-volume format, he places himself at the mercy of editors who will push him relentlessly to produce the next book. If, like Sean Russell in his Swans’ War cycle, Bakker does not significantly shape Book Two, he risks everything. Let’s hope he doesn’t succumb to the pressure and release something beneath both the promise and execution of this excellently written work. But all this forecasting and foreboding cannot take away from the achievements of this book. Throughout, Bakker not only reveals that he is an expert storyteller, but he touches on deep philosophic issues in such a way that any reader will grasp the fundamental principles being tested against each other. He offers us a dark mirror for our strife-torn world, a mirror in which we think we see God when all the while we are only seeing ourselves. " Patrick R. Burger (Books in Canada) view post


TDTCB makes SFsite's yearly top 3 posted 02 Mar 2004, 19:03 in Interviews and ReviewsTDTCB makes SFsite's yearly top 3 by Mithfânion, Didact

http://www.sfsite.com/columns/best04b.htm I have to say this is quite an achievement, and quite a surprise as well, because I wasn't aware so many people had read the book already. The SFsite poll is the biggest SF/Fantasy poll held on the web that I'm aware of, for years has done a pretty fine job of listing the best new books of that particular year (on the bottom of the page you'll find past results, like for instance Erikson's House of Chains that finished first last year). view post


TDTCD third on SFsite's year's best list! posted 06 Mar 2004, 11:03 in Author Q & ATDTCD third on SFsite's year's best list! by Mithfânion, Didact

This is some pretty high praise. SFsite's yearly poll is the biggest Fantasy/Sci fi poll that I'm aware of, and for years has been listing the year's best books (as you will see below). Darkness didn't even appear on the editor's list but the readers voted it third, which surprised me because I didn't know so many people had read the book already. Check out past year's winners to get some reference (Erikson won in 2002 with House of Chains) http://www.sfsite.com/columns/best04b.htm view post


posted 20 Mar 2004, 20:03 in Author Q & AThe Series That Comes After? by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:ou39zp08]In answer to your question, Sovin, Robin Hobb has been on my must read list for some time. Any suggestions as to where I should start? [/i:ou39zp08] Assasin's Apprentice, as others have stated. It's the first one and also one of the best things she's ever written, either as Hobb or as Lindholm. The Farseer/Tawny Man trilogies are nothing short of brilliant. Wonderful character studies above all, the plot tends to be a bit thin (for epic Fantasy), but she creates a great atmosphere and her magic is diferent and interesting both. I thought the Liveship books displayed a distinct drop in quality though. While you may at least want to give them a try before moving on to Tawny Man, they are not necessary. Some stuff from Liveship does spill in to Tawny Man, but you can definitly read Tawny Man without any problems if you've only read Farseer. Anyway, interesting news about the other series, thought that is still a long way off. [/i] view post


Alienonline reviews TDTCB posted 20 May 2004, 08:05 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeAlienonline reviews TDTCB by Mithfânion, Didact

And it's a major thumbs up. http://www.thealienonline.net/ao_030.as ... 5&iid=2367 view post


posted 11 Jul 2004, 10:07 in Interviews and ReviewsAddendum to the wotmania Interview: Re: Monkeys by Mithfânion, Didact

I thought the first three monkeys were funny, and I actually didn't grasp any of the ones that followed. :evil: view post


posted 11 Jul 2004, 10:07 in Interviews and ReviewsLondon Free Press Article by Mithfânion, Didact

And, how did it go? Was there a stripper? :D view post


posted 25 Jul 2004, 16:07 in Literature DiscussionAnyone read American Gods, by Neil Gaiman? by Mithfânion, Didact

Read it as well, rate it 8 stars out of 10, something which not many books make. Good characterization, even better concept, flair for storytelling, emotionally engaging, yes, this was a fine effort. And to think that after my first try I only reached page 150 and put it down with the idea never to be picked up again, since I thought it was nothing else than a travellogue in the beginning. view post


posted 25 Jul 2004, 16:07 in Literature DiscussionBabylon 5 by Mithfânion, Didact

I've seen this show a few times but they stopped airing it here failry quickly. I liked it a lot and considered buying the DVD sets but they are wickedly expsinve. Would someone be willing to give me a basic outline of what it was the space station was fighting and defensing itself from? I recall a group of aliens called MInbari with whom they had an allaince after many years of war. Centauri were also allies I believe, the silly-looking aliens. I recall some eerie telepath, reminded me of the Bene Gesserit, though the character was male. And there were these big creatures called Vorlons, who seemed to be evil, but I'm not sure if they really were. I think they were somehoow tieds to the Shadows. Any thoughts? What are the Technomages and what can they do? Same question applies to Vorlons and Shadows, what were their abilities? view post


posted 25 Jul 2004, 21:07 in Literature DiscussionIlium by Mithfânion, Didact

I'm excited about it, but I'm waiting till Olympos is released next January to read it. view post


posted 12 Aug 2004, 19:08 in ReviewsReveiw of The Last Kingdom - Bernard Cornwell by Mithfânion, Didact

Dros The Last Kingdom is the first book of a trilogy. I'm really looking forward to this book, one of 2004's most highly anticipated releases, and you're to be envied for having an ARC ;) view post


posted 23 Aug 2004, 21:08 in The Thousandfold ThoughtLike father like son? by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:1p4t122l]I end with a question: has there in fact been evidence to suggest that Book Three is to be the last book? [/i:1p4t122l] Yes, Scott has said so. More series dealing with the Second Apocalypse will follow though, possibly two duologies. view post


Last Guardian of Everness posted 26 Aug 2004, 18:08 in Literature DiscussionLast Guardian of Everness by Mithfânion, Didact

Has anyone picked it up yet? It's the Fantasy book by John C. Wright, author of the recent and highly acclaimed Sci-fi trilogy " The Golden Age". This book is the first of two parts, the second of which will be released in March. I've been looking forward to this book enormously and it's been delivered at my doorstep at last. A synopsis for those who've not heard of the book yet: [i:3nzgvr64]Young Galen Waylock is the last watchman of the dream-gate beyond which ancient evils wait, hungry for the human world. For a thousand years, Galen's family stood guard, scorned by a world which dismissed the danger as myth. Now, the minions of Darkness stir in the deep, and the long, long watch is over. Galen's patient loyalty seems vindicated. That loyalty is misplaced. The so-called Power of Light is hostile to modern ideas of human dignity and liberty. No matter who wins the final war between darkness and light, mankind is doomed either to a benevolent dictatorship or a malevolent one. And so Galen makes a third choice: the sleeping Champions of Light are left to sleep. Galen and his companions take the forbidden fairy-weapons themselves. Treason, murder, and disaster follow. The mortals must face the rising Darkness alone. [/i:3nzgvr64] Or, as the author puts it: " Everyone from the Archangel Uriel to the Faerie-Queen Titania to Merlin the Magician shows up in this wild epic, with guest appearances by various titans, lunar monsters, unicorns, and demigods, selkie, frost-giants, a pulp-magazine super-hero, not to mention the Most Holy Grail. " link http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... ce&s=books view post


posted 01 Sep 2004, 17:09 in Off-Topic DiscussionFirst Word that Comes to Mind by Mithfânion, Didact

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posted 03 Sep 2004, 08:09 in Author Q & AWho is the artist on the edition without faces on the covers by Mithfânion, Didact

David Rankine is the man who did the phenomenal cover art. view post


posted 11 Sep 2004, 12:09 in Author Q & ATime for that very annoying question that many of us have by Mithfânion, Didact

It might be sensible for the publisher to send some ARC's to some of the major SF sites on the net that do many book reviews, often on a monthly basis. I haven't seen too much of that yet, which is either because these major sites haven't been getting an ARC or because they didn't botther to mention their review (which, let's face it, is highly unlikely). sites like sfsite.com, alienonline.net, emcit.com, sfrevu.com, computerscrowsnest.co.uk, locus magazine, infinityplus.co.uk,greenmanreview.com,scifi.com. These sites are read by a lot of genre fans and positive reviews from these sites would garner some major promotion. If the book is going to be released in Fall anyway than that extra time might as well be used as efficiently as possible. After all, if you're going to be writing such awesome stuff anyway then why not make as money off it as you can 8) view post


posted 11 Sep 2004, 17:09 in Author Q & ATime for that very annoying question that many of us have by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:2pe8xus3]Those sites already do receive ARCs, as do others like Cheryl Morgan's Emerald City (which just won a Hugo for Best Fanzine) and a few others of a blog/review nature[/i:2pe8xus3] If that is true than it is very strange that many of them haven't even deigned to post a review. Often/Usually when they get one they do at least that, even if they dislike it. I trust you're absolutely sure they've all received one? [i:2pe8xus3]It's just surprising that more of the major SFF sites that revolve around messageboards don't receive more ARCs[/i:2pe8xus3] What sites are you thinking of then? As for the delay; as a fan I am of course hoping it will be released as originally planned but if that April date should prove to be impossible then a few more months would hardly be disastrous. view post


posted 02 Oct 2004, 11:10 in Interviews and ReviewsWell Scott, you wanted some discussion of your Interviews ;) by Mithfânion, Didact

I'm surprised by the irritated and to some extent big-mouthed replies given on that board. It seems readily apparant that they feel genuinely intimidated and simply lash out. The tone of Stover's responses in particular was that of one looking for a row rather than one interested in debate or even some form of enlightenment. view post


There's a listing for the release posted 30 Oct 2004, 22:10 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThere's a listing for the release by Mithfânion, Didact

on Amazon.ca http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0 ... 08-9776806 It's in April 2005. Of course the real question is whether or not it will actually be released on that date but presumably amazon got this info from the publisher so.... view post


posted 30 Oct 2004, 22:10 in Author Q & ATime for that very annoying question that many of us have by Mithfânion, Didact

I see Amazon has listed TTT as an April 22nd release. It's a very recent addition. Any thoughts on that Scott? Could it be accurate? view post


posted 31 Oct 2004, 11:10 in Author Q & ATime for that very annoying question that many of us have by Mithfânion, Didact

Well presumably they'd get that info from the publisher (though you'd have to say that with Amazon you never know). Do you think an April release is still likely? view post


posted 07 Nov 2004, 12:11 in The Warrior ProphetRelease Dates by Mithfânion, Didact

Yes, TWP is being released in hardcover in January. view post


posted 07 Nov 2004, 12:11 in Author Q & AScott, tell me this won't be your excuse for delaying TTT ;) by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:cf8g8ghr]Rest assured, though, the writing is going VERY well. I'm getting pretty damned excited![/i:cf8g8ghr] Aaahh, now those are the words we're looking for! view post


posted 12 Nov 2004, 12:11 in Author Q & AScott, tell me this won't be your excuse for delaying TTT ;) by Mithfânion, Didact

On a more positive side, his latest updat reports that he hopes to have it finished by year's end. Now he may not actually succeed in doing that, but the fact that he thinks it's possible at all is most encouraging. view post


posted 12 Nov 2004, 12:11 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThere's a listing for the release by Mithfânion, Didact

It's no longer accurate anyway, Scott has already mentioned that the book is slated for an October release. view post


posted 22 Nov 2004, 15:11 in Author Q & AThis time I got a question... by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:2w4cas9a]I highly doubt there'll be new releases/re-releases of Wolfe's work in MMPB format, the same for Charles de Lint. Yet they seem to be doing well enough, right? [/i:2w4cas9a] Well actually, they are. For instance, The Knight by Gene Wolfe is coming out in MMPB in January and De lint has mmpb's as well. Overlook doing a trade version seems like a good option as long as no one is willing to do a pocket. In any case, I also think that once the trilogy has been completed and there's been lots of word-of-mouth, than publishers might be more inclined. On the other hand I don't really understand why no one in the US wants these rights. I just don't get it, but then I never understood why it took five years for a US publisher to decide they wanted Steven Erikson either. [/i] view post


posted 24 Nov 2004, 20:11 in Author Q & AThis time I got a question... by Mithfânion, Didact

On other but related news, I just read that Orbit UK has bought the British rights to Prince of Nothing from Simon & Schuster and will start that off by releasing mass market paperbacks of the first two books in Summer 2005. view post


posted 25 Nov 2004, 15:11 in Author Q & AThis time I got a question... by Mithfânion, Didact

Lol ! Sorry :D :twisted: view post


posted 07 Dec 2004, 20:12 in Author Q & ACongratulations! by Mithfânion, Didact

Can someone who is a subscriber to PW paste the text? view post


posted 17 Dec 2004, 10:12 in Literature DiscussionWanna vote in this year's Awards? by Mithfânion, Didact

Aldarion I want to vote but what isn't clear to me is whether I have to chose one of your site's picks for every category or whether I should simply list my own top 3 for each category. Thoughts? view post


posted 17 Dec 2004, 14:12 in Literature DiscussionWanna vote in this year's Awards? by Mithfânion, Didact

Ok, I'll get at it :) view post


Art for TTT? posted 12 Jan 2005, 19:01 in Author Q & AArt for TTT? by Mithfânion, Didact

Hi Scott, David Rankine states on his website that he has completed the artwork for TTT quite a while ago. Have you seen the finished article? If so, any chance of posting it? -Mith view post


posted 14 Jan 2005, 22:01 in Author Q & AArt for the UK Editions by Mithfânion, Didact

The English covers aren't too bad IMO, they just don't rival the Canadian/US editions. Cool btw that Orbit will be releasing TDTCB and TWP back-to-back within a month time. view post


posted 18 Jan 2005, 19:01 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:1lb3nmqm]If everything goes to plan, TTT will include a number of appendices, including additional maps and an 'Encyclopaedic Glossary.' It all depends on how much secondary material I can polish up before my deadline. [/i:1lb3nmqm] And this will still contain the Cunuroi-Inchoroi battles featuring Cujara Cinmoi, right? Interesting to see which of WL's questions will be addressed (to some extent) In TTT btw. Cil-Aujas a matter to be addressed in TTT as well Scott, or in later books? view post


posted 18 Jan 2005, 22:01 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

Excellent. :D view post


posted 24 Jan 2005, 21:01 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:2y2h2y97]Aengelas[/i:2y2h2y97] I love that name. I hope we'll be seeing more of him. view post


posted 26 Jan 2005, 20:01 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:911q18ga]As for Aengelas - well things don't look all that good for him at the end of TWP![/i:911q18ga] Hmm. Is that a hint towards not expecting too much from him anymore? view post


posted 28 Jan 2005, 20:01 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

Good question WL, I'd like to know the difference as well. view post


posted 29 Jan 2005, 21:01 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

Interesting. I wonder if Jiricet would be widely cursed by the Nonmen themselves as well. I also wonder what the exodus of the Nonmen would have looked like in reality. Would they have been cast out violently by Men or did it go rather peacefully (or perhaps they were too unassailable) (rhetorical question btw Scott). Or why Nil’giccas didn't return Jiricet (he must have foreseen major trouble yet still...) Interesting that " twoheart" lived for over 200 years, proof that he did indeed have a " special " father. Scott, is this then the main reason for the breach of contact between Men and Nonmen, or are there other reasons as well? Also, all of this begs the ineviatble question, do the Siqu still have a role, now that they are no longer councillors? And on a related note, how high would you rate the chances of your average human warrior being able to take out a Nonman (warrior)? view post


posted 31 Jan 2005, 23:01 in Author Q & AWhat are you most looking forward to? by Mithfânion, Didact

Update: *Seeing more of the Cunuroi and the Inchoroi *Finding out who Moenghus is and what he can do (is the TTT his for instance?) *Kellhus learning the Gnosis and putting it to use. *Meeting some Consult members *Seeing Cnaiur's story tied up, encountering Moenghus perhaps. Scott, how likely is it that I'll be seeing these things? :D view post


posted 01 Feb 2005, 17:02 in Author Q & AWhat are you most looking forward to? by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:1tbcduiu]Poor to excellent... [/i:1tbcduiu] That one was just too easy wasn't it? ;) Without needing to go into anything specific, could you just say if we will see more of the Cunuroi as well as the Inchoroi in TTT ? view post


Character heights in Earwa posted 02 Feb 2005, 17:02 in Author Q & ACharacter heights in Earwa by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, Tolkien and Martin seem to have this fascination for their character's heights, not just describing it but even attributing certain characteristics or standings to people of great height. I've always wondered about the various heights in the PoN books as well, so it would be informative if you could indicate some figures :) I'm curious about what you had imagined for the following: -Kellhus -Cnaiur -Achamian -Cunuroi as a race, their average height -Inchoroi as a race, their average height -The Sranc -Mallahet -Conphas -Proyas -Yalgrota Perhaps you don't have any figures in mind? If so, what height would the above generally be? Maybe other posters could state their impressions as well? view post


posted 03 Feb 2005, 16:02 in Author Q & AOkay - I just have to ask by Mithfânion, Didact

How does one go about eating a stiletto heel Annabel? btw are all women truly shoe-obsessed or just 90% of them? It sometimes seems as if twenty pairs is nothing special. view post


posted 03 Feb 2005, 17:02 in Author Q & ACharacter heights in Earwa by Mithfânion, Didact

Hey, that's very interesting! Kellhus and Cnaiur are obviously tall men, as I had expected. Hadn't expected Achamian quite so short, but certainly short. The women's heights feel right as well. I don't really know why but I had imagined the Cunuroi's average height as taller than men ( I guess it comes from their general " superiority " in terms of innate power) . Of course, the average height of the race of men (probably) isn't 6 ft, but the difference is still quite small. The Inchoroi are gigantic. You forgot Mallahet btw. What about him? Or Skayelt? I'd ask about Moenghus but since we haven't actually met him yet that's a bit premature. How about your namesake? Average height Cunuroi? view post


posted 03 Feb 2005, 18:02 in Author Q & ACharacter heights in Earwa by Mithfânion, Didact

Re;Mallahet I figured ;) There was discussion about him possibly being Moenghus so a height estimate could be indicative there. What about Cujara Cinmoi (seems odd to ask since we haven't seen him yet but in case the text doesn't mention it it's good to know)? view post


posted 03 Feb 2005, 19:02 in Author Q & ACharacter heights in Earwa by Mithfânion, Didact

Lol Thanks for the answers,it's really quite helpful :) view post


posted 03 Feb 2005, 19:02 in Author Q & AEarwa Related babble... by Mithfânion, Didact

Hmm, I've seen the complaint at Westeros a couple of times, What is usually meant is that they can't root for any of the characters. Not for Kellhus, because he's so manipulative and in some people's eyes, so [i:zhwrlg9m]alien[/i:zhwrlg9m]. He is an anti-hero in their opinion, because of his ideals/goals. Not for Cnaiur, because of the things he does. Achamian is usually considered alright, but not strong enough a draw to root for (perhaps because he is not the main character in the way that Kellhus comes across as being). view post


posted 03 Feb 2005, 21:02 in Author Q & AEarwa Related babble... by Mithfânion, Didact

Yes. I think that what they complain about is a combination of these things. There are some who genuinely can't identify with the main characters. Then there's the fact that there's a lot of ambiguity, which leads to uncertainty about what people in the story are upto and whether or not they're worthy of the readers's "support". The story also isn't as straightforward as usual, this may confuse readers doubly so. They might normally simply fall back on rooting for the main hero, which in this case some simply can't do. view post


posted 04 Feb 2005, 16:02 in Author Q & AEarwa Related babble... by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:757k52av]. I want my characters to be out and out troubling, whereas - and I in no mean this as a criticism - Martin wants his characters to be 'gritty.'[/i:757k52av] This seems right to me. It's the fact that they are so troubling that makes them so intriguing to me. For what it's worth, Kellhus is one of the best characters I've ever read about, he's fascinating and I really do root for him. [i:757k52av]More generally, I've been thinking about Martin with regards to this question as well. The difference between his characters and mine, I think, is that he tries to make his characters - even the brutes like Sandor - likeable[/i:757k52av] There are some exceptions to this (think Gregor, Amory Lorch, Ramsay, Roose, The Goat and some others) but mostly it's true. He wants to have a story behind the bad guy, show a different perspective, making things ambiguous. Sandor is an example, so is Jaime. First we see him murdering a child and see him overall portrayed as a vicious villain and enemy of the Starks, and then suddenly we get his POV. Personally he's nowhere near redemption for me, but some fans have done a complete turnaround where Jaime is concerned. view post


posted 06 Feb 2005, 16:02 in The Warrior ProphetAnother Maithanet Theory (possible spoiler) by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:35e1b1a7]And Moenghus is a VERY cunning and VERY powerful sorcerer[/i:35e1b1a7] We know this because? view post


posted 06 Feb 2005, 17:02 in Author Q & ACharacter heights in Earwa by Mithfânion, Didact

Funny that all of the Orcs in Jackson's adaptation of the LoTR had these strong English accents btw, I wonder if he was hammering home a point :) view post


posted 07 Feb 2005, 18:02 in Author Q & ACharacter heights in Earwa by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, now Aldarion makes me curious. Exactly how tall are you yourself? Ilana [i:1eehqpex]and yet tall people earn higher pay and have better jobs than short people[/i:1eehqpex] Is that so? Apparently I've been missing out again :) view post


posted 16 Feb 2005, 18:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtMoenghus as Harbinger by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:1f8ib9hi]I don't agree with the point about Kellus' son being of great importance with respect to the prophecy or the victory over the consult - kellus is only 40 something[/i:1f8ib9hi] 33 actually. view post


posted 17 Feb 2005, 14:02 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Mithfânion, Didact

Faelin, I wouldn't recommend ever trying Gardens again. It's simply not a very good book as far as I'm concerned. The following books are simply quite a bit better. That saif, I share quite a few of your quibbles about Erikson, if not as many, and if you bounced off as hard as you did I wouldn't recommend going through. view post


posted 17 Feb 2005, 14:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtMoenghus as Harbinger by Mithfânion, Didact

Yep, and I doubt that's a coincidence. view post


posted 19 Feb 2005, 20:02 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Mithfânion, Didact

WL, Off-topic a bit, but what *are* your favorites? I noticed you're very big on worldbuilding, as am I, so maybe I can pick up a recommendation or two. view post


Feast for Crows due this Summer posted 19 Feb 2005, 21:02 in Literature DiscussionFeast for Crows due this Summer by Mithfânion, Didact

According to GRRM at the Boskone Convention that he's currently attending. YES! view post


posted 20 Feb 2005, 11:02 in Literature DiscussionFeast for Crows due this Summer by Mithfânion, Didact

There's already one conflicting report that has come in in which the poster says that Martin had no idea when it will be finished. In other words, a total opposite of a Summer release. Most irritating. view post


posted 21 Feb 2005, 20:02 in Author Q & Aso what is Scott Bakker reading? by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, What's the Cheever collection called? It sounds interesting to me but he has quite a few books.. view post


posted 21 Feb 2005, 22:02 in Author Q & AAppendices by Mithfânion, Didact

Some of that does seem to refer to the upcoming appendices to TTT Malt, which will be huge (think appendices to Return of the King). Otherwise I don't know what info is in the Canadian editions that I have that isn't in the UK copies since I don't own one. view post


posted 22 Feb 2005, 19:02 in Literature DiscussionStephen Erikson's Books by Mithfânion, Didact

WL, I'll give you my greatest favorites but this has to do wit more than worldbuilding; I'm very big on plotting and characterization as well. I'd recommend Tolkien and Martin right off the bat, but you've already covered those. I'd go to Robin Hobb then, because her characterization is superb. Farseer and Tawny Man are on the level of Martin's ASOIAF for me, though much smaller in scale. Guy Gavriel Kay has written some excellent books, The Fionavar Tapestry as a Fantasy (with some big worldbuilding, mixing Tolkienesque elemenets with Celtic and Arthurian elements), and his historical novels like Song for Arbonne, Tigana,Lions of Al-Rassan and Last Light of the Sun. There's Tad Williams, who is a major worldbuilder, he has a new saga out, called Shadowmarch (one book only sofar) and of course his legendary epic Fantasy Memory, Sorrow and Thorn. This has a huge cast of characters, various races, detailed descriptions of cities, landscape, cultures etc. Other than that, Greg Keyes (Kingdoms of Thorne and Bone), Juliet Marillier (Bridei Chronicles), Gene Wolfe (The Wizardknight), JV Jones (Sword of Shadows), Robert Holdstock (Mythago Wood) and some others in my top 20. view post


posted 22 Feb 2005, 19:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSay it ain't so, Joe. (TTT cancelled?!?) by Mithfânion, Didact

It's to be published in October according to Scott himself. I assume you had an order out for the initial release date? view post


posted 24 Feb 2005, 17:02 in Author Q & Aso what is Scott Bakker reading? by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, Ah, the big 700 page one. I might give that a try, though having read what it's about it sounds perhaps just a bit too mundane for my taste. Ilana, Erikson's second book certainly is much better than the first, which I thought was really nothing above average. Book III is usually regarded as his best work. Scott, have you read all of Erikson's Malazan books? There are 5 now. view post


posted 24 Feb 2005, 18:02 in Literature DiscussionFeast for Crows due this Summer by Mithfânion, Didact

Actually it can make a Summer release date. It's only February. If he finishes it in March, which he's likely to do, it can be released in for instance September (which is still Summer). The publisher's will be eager to publish it , especially the UK publisher who wants to steal sales from US buyers from the US publisher. Aside from that, the book is already partially edited by Martin and his editor(s) because he was already sending parts of the manuscript months ago. view post


posted 01 Mar 2005, 18:03 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:22hgywbk]This is interesting because from what you said of the Quya they are a caste, so one would expect that anyone born into this caste could work sorcery, so it implies a genetic basis, but still . . . Also are the Siqu a branch of the Quya or an unrelated caste? [/i:22hgywbk] Both questions seconded! view post


posted 05 Mar 2005, 09:03 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

White Lord, You may know this already, but just in case, TTT will be released in October. Scott, I was wondering, isn't it about time the Princeofnothing.com website is updated with info about TTT? I don't know if you do this yourself, perhaps someone maintains and edits it for you. view post


posted 06 Mar 2005, 10:03 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

Martin has said he expects it to be published in the Summer, which might be September. So it would come out around the same time as TTT, which would be phenomenal. Still, it's not definitive yet. view post


posted 06 Mar 2005, 17:03 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

Wait a sec. Are you saying that TTT will be delayed yet again? How can that possibly be? It was already scheduled for an June 2005 release. Then it was pushed back because Penguin wanted to give you and themselves more time so that they didn't have to "crash" the book and that they would have plenty of time to edit, which is why it was delayed until October 2005. You yourself have said all along that TTT was coming along superbly...... yet now it'll be delayed again? That would be so tremendously disappointing. Why would stiff competition be relevant anyway? They don't even know that Martin's book will come out about that time and besides, they're a Canadian publisher. The US release of TTT isn't due yet for quite a while and that's where the competiton would be. I don't get it. What is to be gained for Penguin? I could see why they delayed it from June till October but now yet another delay? That's just insane. They don't seem to give a toss about their readers at all. Do they even care about the many people anxiously awaiting this book? Apparently not. Man, talk about bad news and seemingly endless delays. All this time looking forward to finally getting TTT and then finding out the publisher wants to delay the book again. This is infuriating. view post


posted 06 Mar 2005, 17:03 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

BTW something else that I find very strange about this reasoning. Normally authors go on book tours to promote their new book. Wouldn't it actually be handy if the new book came out at that time, to promote it? It seems reverse thinking to me , and contrary to what is common in the publsihing business, to have an author go on another book tour and then delay the to be promoted book. Normally these things coincide. Maybe there is something we can do, the fans can launch an e-mail/letter campain to Penguin to politely tell them how they feel. view post


posted 06 Mar 2005, 18:03 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

Overall, it's not. However if you're a fan who's waiting, and who continually gets to focus on a date, which is then delayed, and then delayed again, that's about as disappointed as you're about to get as far as these things go. Delaying it a few months puts it next to Erikson's Bonehunters, who *is * a big name and sells a book that would definitly be lumped in the same category. But about the galleys, I can understand that. It's true that you need a couple of months to let ARC's go out to various reviewers, to get the necessary buzz. But October is stil very far off, wouldn't there be shiploads of time to still do that? If the galleys go out in June, July or even August, that would be more than enough time wouldn't it? Surely this doesn't require another delay. Unless of course TTT won't be finished by that time. Isn't all of this also a lot to do with wanting the release dates to be the same in Canada, the US and the UK? Because it sounds a lot like it. It's why people suspect The Bonehunters was delayed as well, to allow the incredibly slow US market to catch up. The readers who got on the boat early now pay the price. You'll have to forgive me Scott, I'm just very pissed off at the moment :) view post


posted 06 Mar 2005, 21:03 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

No need to at all. In the end what will be remembered is how good TTT is and not how long it took for it to be published. It's a real downer now but once you adjust to a new date it gives a new perspective. It doesn't help that TWP ends in such an exciting manner and you want TTT to follow that up asap. Anyway, you think January 2006 is a likely new date then? That would leave us 10 months wait. Knowing that a date is set is always better than not knowing at all. view post


Excellent pointers to promote TTT posted 12 Mar 2005, 17:03 in Author Q & AExcellent pointers to promote TTT by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, Gyrehead posted this in the TTT forum but because I don't think you post there you may not have seen it. It was part of a small thread called "Scott's to-do list". Gyrehead posted these excellent pointers which are worthwhile because they can be effective as well as very manageable because they don't require that much effort: [i:2mqk1y5q]"Get a sample chapter posted as soon as possible and then make sure everyone from the heavy hitters in the rec.arts.written.sf newsgroup to the guys over at SFFworld all know about it. Make sure to have a wellcrafted blurb to post on the various amazons when TTT is finally listed. Make sure it goes beyond the general to catch the fan who has read the first two books but stays broad enough to intrigue someone who has yet to take a look at any of the books. Include something unique from the various cover blurbs and listings that will draw people and have fans talking. This helps make sure that people don't wait for TTT to come ou in ppbk. Make them want it NOW and keep it that way. Use this site to give out a little tidbit a week when the date is due. Like the wonderful blurb you gave from the glossary recently. Something that will keep the fans coming here to the site and get people talking. The power of the internet, despite the lackadaisical apporach by most publishers, is still quite strong. On the Rec.arts.written.sf newsgroup alone, about 600 messages are posted daily and right now there are about three huge threads active that include your work being mentioned. Not that you have anything else to do. But a little squeaking can sometimes get a lot more oil than you might think."[/i:2mqk1y5q] This rings really true to me and could do a great deal about buzz for TTT, whether it's a Canadian,uk or us release. The idea of a sample chapter on the site and then buzzing that around is very good, as is giving some though to a good (and not overly concise) blurb for TTT (you may already have done this). I'm not sure myself if the third idea is quite so manageable (though it is good idea) because I don't really know what tidbits you could release. view post


posted 14 Mar 2005, 19:03 in The Warrior ProphetAnother Maithanet Theory (possible spoiler) by Mithfânion, Didact

Cool thought. It will be very interesting to see if it happens like that. view post


posted 18 Mar 2005, 16:03 in Author Q & ATime for that very annoying question that many of us have by Mithfânion, Didact

Hi Scott, Completion of the first draft is near, any thoughts on book length? TWP size (600 pages) , as you projected earlier, with about 2/3 of the book as actual story and 1/3 as appendices? view post


posted 20 Mar 2005, 08:03 in Author Q & ACharacter? by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott has explained that he is a character of legend, a Nonman King. He will appear in the appendices to TTT, but probably not in the actual story. view post


posted 06 Apr 2005, 18:04 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

Interesting questions WL. I'm interetsed in any Souther Cunuroi info as well, and it would be very interesting to know if there is a coat of arms for the Anasurimbors and whether more than two are alive (actually Moenghus may not be alive either). view post


posted 13 Apr 2005, 17:04 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:2fi66fqa]Haven't we already seen one nonman physically described?[/i:2fi66fqa] Well, I believe Scott has said that the Nonmen will find themselves described in TTT, but I wasn't going to say it because it would take the wind out WL's sails :) Unless I'm mistaken and Scott was talking about the Sranc, but I think he said the Nonmen will be described in TTT. This doesn't answer the question about the Inchoroi's appearance of course. view post


posted 15 Apr 2005, 16:04 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

Found it! [i:3m770coy]One of the things I like doing (and I've had more than a few of my readers curse me for it!) is allowing the story to slowly fill in the more enigmatic background details, with the idea of having the picture relatively complete by the end of PON. The Nonmen (and Bashrag), for instance, find themselves described in the beginning of TTT.[/i:3m770coy][/i] view post


posted 21 Apr 2005, 20:04 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, How much of a role would you say Mog Pharau himself plays in TTT? view post


posted 29 Apr 2005, 08:04 in Author Q & AWill the Fanim finally get a break? by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, You may find this book very interesting, Warriors of the Steppe, by Erik Hildinger. It's a recent publication and is about this very subject: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... ce&s=books Also, there is this one, by Jeremiah Curtin: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... 96-5798545 and The Devil's Horsemen by David Chambers: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... 5?v=glance Finally, Mongol Warlords by David Nicolle: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASI ... 13-0388425 view post


A note on other races posted 16 May 2005, 09:05 in Author Q & AA note on other races by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, I was thinking about why so many authors fail in creating an Elf-like race as Tolkien did. The more one reads the more it becomes clear that apparantly he may have been the only one to succesfully create another race, a race of higher stature than men, ethereal, somehow magical, mysterious. I've been thinking on why it is that other authors generally fail to portray them and one of the the main reasons that comes to me is the fact that they always remain superficial, in terms of describtion, but also in terms of characterization. There are no main or even strong supporting characters from that race with any depth, and insight into their race and culture is only given very superficially. Which is why the mention of books having Elves or whatever kind of other race rarely excites me anymore, after so many bad experiences. Is this something you tend to focus on in upcoming books, to really flesh out the Cunuroi and perhaps the Inchoroi as well? Obviously they don't have to be [i:n98jdflv]like[/i:n98jdflv] Tolkien's Elves, it should rather be something wholly yours but still wonderfully awe-inspiring. Adding a major character from such race to the foreground of the story, is that something that you have in mind? view post


posted 16 May 2005, 16:05 in Author Q & AA note on other races by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:37rekr5k]. If I remember correctly, Scott said that even as early as TTT we would see something of the Nonmen, i.e. first-person exposition[/i:37rekr5k] I think that was more along the lines of the Nonmen finding themselves described in TTT, which isn't necessarily all that revealing. First-person exposition would be cool. The vast appendices may go some way to at least establishing a firm history for their race. view post


posted 16 May 2005, 19:05 in Author Q & AA note on other races by Mithfânion, Didact

You're right, it might well be the case. :) view post


posted 21 May 2005, 10:05 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

Which is understandable really, we're only two books into the series (three as far as you yourself are concerned). If you have a small world then it is much easier to give depth to each and every thing than if you already have a big world with so many things to explain. A few of these questions would perhaps only be explained after Aspect Emperor is finished. view post


posted 29 May 2005, 07:05 in Literature DiscussionFeast for Crows due this Summer by Mithfânion, Didact

That is such a crap decision. A few weeks ago he was going on about how Feast was mainly about Dany and Jon, and now they are both excluded completely. What a fucking mess. view post


posted 29 May 2005, 07:05 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

Damn. I'd love to be a bear now and just hibernate until January 2006. view post


posted 16 Jun 2005, 19:06 in Author Q & APsukhe vs The Gnosis by Mithfânion, Didact

The appendices to TDTCB mention that [i:1zch1hu2]"the Psukhe is in many ways as formidable as the Anagogic sorcery of the Schools".[/i:1zch1hu2] And that it can't be seen by The Few and that very little is known of it. view post


posted 18 Jun 2005, 10:06 in Author Q & APsukhe vs The Gnosis by Mithfânion, Didact

Sissies! view post


posted 27 Jun 2005, 20:06 in Author Q & AExcellent pointers to promote TTT by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, is there a blurb/synopsis yet for TTT? view post


posted 08 Jul 2005, 18:07 in Author Q & AExcellent pointers to promote TTT by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:put2vrgx]Speaking of which, did I ever send you a book, Mith?[/i:put2vrgx] You did, a galley for TWP remember. :) As I said on Sffworld, a very cool synopsis. Ditch the "and he fears what might happen" because it's extranneous ;) view post


posted 11 Jul 2005, 19:07 in Author Q & AThe Inchoroi and the Sranc by Mithfânion, Didact

Jora, It's true that the Canadian edition of The Darkness contains some appendices info that is not included in the UK edition ( I don't know about the US). Anything in particular you're interested in right now that I should look up? view post


posted 16 Jul 2005, 21:07 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThere's a listing for the release by Mithfânion, Didact

Well, presumably this is the final release date, December 30th 2005. http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0 ... 45-1729116 view post


TTT cover posted 30 Jul 2005, 11:07 in Author Q & ATTT cover by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, Maybe you could give it to Jack or Will and they could probably upload it to the website? Otherwise you could mail it to those interested. view post


posted 31 Jul 2005, 10:07 in Author Q & AA few questions . . . by Mithfânion, Didact

Well, there were women among the Dunyain that first came to Ishual (see the prologue). Presumably then, there are still women among them. view post


Cnaiur's prowess posted 04 Aug 2005, 17:08 in Author Q & ACnaiur's prowess by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, Do you think that there is someone in the world of the Three Seas (incl. Zeum) who could beat Cnaiur in single combat? I could imagine that someone could take him out, one on one, by the use of great sorcery, but that is not what I mean to find out. Is there anyone who could beat him in single combat, be they man or Nonmen (or otherwise) without applying magic? view post


Anasurimbors as high councillors posted 04 Aug 2005, 17:08 in Author Q & AAnasurimbors as high councillors by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, I was wondering, do you feel either of the two brilliant Anasurimbors would make good advisors, good councillors to a King? It's a bit of an odd question I guess but one that popped into my mind anyway. Could for instance Moenghus be the wise councillor behind the King, or do thei personal characteristics and upbringing make them unfit (or lacking in wisdom)? view post


posted 05 Aug 2005, 15:08 in Author Q & ACnaiur's prowess by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:3kds6gsb]I've been wanting to ask for awhile though who would win between Cnaiur and Yalgrotta? [/i:3kds6gsb] Hmm, a worthy thought for the day ;) Atan, I was talking about who could defeat Cnaiur rather than Kellhus himself. WL, I was thinking there might rank some among the Nonmen warriors certainly, as well as the Inchoroi. Of men though, I would expect the number to be limited (so little is known of Zeum, I have no idea if candidates would be present there). view post


posted 05 Aug 2005, 15:08 in Author Q & AAnasurimbors as high councillors by Mithfânion, Didact

Target, WL, Obviously the idea of why they would advise rather than rule anyone (given their power) comes uo immediately. But I'm assuming that there is a situation where they have either reconciled theirselves with a role as councillor or in which they are forced to be the man behind the throne (for instance because of a public dislike for their character as actual rulers). view post


posted 06 Aug 2005, 09:08 in Author Q & AAnasurimbors as high councillors by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:2w9lllt5]I believe there are other things in store for the Anasurimbor, than being counselors to someone else. [/i:2w9lllt5] That goes pretty much without saying. In terms of prospective councillors, I think that perhaps some of the Nonmen coming back into play might fulfill a role here. Who knows? Well, actually, someone does.... view post


posted 07 Aug 2005, 07:08 in Author Q & ACnaiur's prowess by Mithfânion, Didact

WL, Correct me if I'm wrong but from your posts I get the impression that you underrate Cnaiur somewhat. I'm not saying there aren't any men from Zeum or the Three Seas that can't defeat him in single combat, I am however saying that I think the number of men who would be able to do that seem very limited to me. Outside of the obvious, like a Nonman warrior or Kellhus ( a prodigy even among the Dunyain) there are few I can think of. That's not because of an innate desire to equate the known characters with the strongest characters, as you suggest, but because Cnaiur is the most powerful and most skilled warrior of his race. Which is to say that he is the greatest warrior of a race in which men are born and bred for war, in fact they are the very People of War. That Cnaiur would be the most accomplished warrior there would mean that there are very few (if any at all) who might outdo him one-on-one, considering the less martial, more pampered nature of the Southern nations. I'd love to know more about Zeum though. On the question of why Nonmen don't last long, some insight from Scott would indeed be appreciated. If I had to speculate, the first and only thing that comes to mind is that of Nonmen, there are few, and when they venture into hostile lands alone, they will suffer the same fate as others, regardless of their skills. I imagine even they might be taken unawares at some point. view post


posted 07 Aug 2005, 09:08 in Author Q & ACnaiur's prowess by Mithfânion, Didact

Wl [i:7h2122yf]Mith, some of what you say may well be true, but the fact that the Scylvendi call themselves the People of War, or that they fight whenever they get the chance does not make them inherently or in fact better fighters than others.[/i:7h2122yf] Well, it makes them [b:7h2122yf]more likely[/b:7h2122yf] to produce great warriors. Because so many are trained as warriors, the potential of many more men is utilized, when in other cultures, it is not. To be the best of a race of many warriors is more impressive than to be the best of a race of few. In the case of Cnaiur, we have someone who is the greatest warrior in a race of warriors. You can't get much more acclaimed than that. [i:7h2122yf]From what Achamian tells Kellhus even the Scylvendi feared the Norsirai of antiquity as warriors, which makes me think that at that time the Norsirai were in fact stronger[/i:7h2122yf] Sure, but the Norsirai are not even comparable anymore to their former glory. They have become a wasted, defeated race. And I was referring to who could defeat Caniaur [b:7h2122yf]now[/b:7h2122yf], not who could in the past. [i:7h2122yf]I also think that if we speak of individual prowess, we must not mix the collective success of a people like the Scylvendi and compare it to that of others. [/i:7h2122yf] Well if that is truly so you shouldn't have brought up the collective success of the Ancient Norsirai ;) [i:7h2122yf]But notwithstanding all that I simply think that Cnaiur may be becoming too unhinged to fight with his natural cunning anymore[/i:7h2122yf] There are some who need their rage to fight as well as they can. They harnass it, and use it to its full extent. Cnaiur hasn't been overly hampered by his rage sofar when it comes to combat. Maybe it will in TTT, then again, maybe not. We'll see. [/i] view post


posted 08 Aug 2005, 20:08 in The Warrior ProphetThe Few and Kellhus by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:1m4g8p1s]I've been unable to shake the idea that the No-God is not at all 'evil" since i first read the book and heard the name 'No-God'[/i:1m4g8p1s] H, I'm afraid I can't follow that thinking at all. The entity is still somewhat mysterious, but from what we've heard sofar it seems clearly aligned as an unprecedented evil. It's very coming into the world heralded worldwide baby stillbirth... view post


posted 08 Aug 2005, 20:08 in Author Q & ACnaiur's prowess by Mithfânion, Didact

Saint [i:3myvddg6]b) also the only one to have struck him (IIRC he landed a punch or something, it's been a long time and I'd check this but I don't have my book) [/i:3myvddg6] Yes, Cnaiur landed a punch with the palm of his hand. On the other hand, Scott does mention in the book that the fight was like a husband beating his wife, or a father beating his child. In other words, the difference between Kellhus and Cnaiur seems to be tremendous. Cynical [i:3myvddg6]The Sranc, who are orc equivalents, have beautiful faces not hideous ones.[/i:3myvddg6] I now do not recall if the Nonmen were described as inhumanly beautiful (a description is to follow in TTT, apparantly) but the Sranc of course are based upon The Nonmen, being abominations. Scott recently said that they share physical traits. H [i:3myvddg6]We're a bit off topic here, but wasn't the Consult created after the First Apocalypse to try to bring about the No-God's return? [/i:3myvddg6] Well that's what it says in the appendices of TDTCB, but in the text they are mentioned as being part of the First Apocalypse War. I have ever since assumed they already existed rather than being founded afterwards. view post


posted 09 Aug 2005, 15:08 in The Warrior ProphetThe Few and Kellhus by Mithfânion, Didact

I actually imagined Mog Pharau to be something more along the lines of a Sauron, but more evil. More depraved, more vicious, more lethal and all-pervading. Something truly terrifying, bone-chilling so to speak, which is something that Sauron never was imo. view post


posted 10 Aug 2005, 18:08 in Author Q & ACnaiur's prowess by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:100l09as]Certainly there would be any number of extraordinary individuals who could defeat him in physical combat - its a big world.[/i:100l09as] That's the way I meant it. view post


posted 10 Aug 2005, 19:08 in Author Q & ACunuroi/Inchoroi numbers by Mithfânion, Didact

One more thing: How much have we seen of the Consult in terms of its members? So far we've been limited to Inchoroi and skin spies, but in the back of the book they are described as a cabal of magi and generals, so where is the actual Consult? Are they still alive, and will we meet these mages and generals? Do they all reside in Golgotterath? It does seem that the Inchoroi are the top members in terms of hierarchy, rather than mages and generals. Is this correct? view post


posted 10 Aug 2005, 19:08 in Author Q & AAnasurimbors as high councillors by Mithfânion, Didact

Makes sense 8) view post


Most cruel act yet? posted 18 Aug 2005, 05:08 in The Thousandfold ThoughtMost cruel act yet? by Mithfânion, Didact

For me it's definilty the treatment of Xunnurit, elected King of Tribes of the Scylvendi. The way he is handled by Conphas and the Emperor is beyond simple cruelty and malice. Sure, he was an asshole to Cnaiur before the battle but even he didn't deserve this. Heavy chains about his neck, wrist as well as the feet, his eyes stabbed out, totally naked and in addition to that, deliberately malnourished so that he would also come to look as an emcciated skeleton. Rarely have I seen a description of a man so degraded (reminiscent of German war camps). Did anyone think there were surpassing acts? view post


posted 19 Aug 2005, 12:08 in The Thousandfold ThoughtShould Kellhus learn the Gnosis? by Mithfânion, Didact

I see it as follows: The great danger of Kellhus learning the Gnosis and the primary reason for why he shouldn't do it, is indeed because it makes him far more vulnerable than he is right now. Given his gifts and abilities, you'd expect someone to be secure as he is. However....... Learning the Gnosis will become a necessity if Kellhus is in fact the one who will be largely responsible for taking on the Consult, Inchoroi and Mog Pharau included. There comes a point when simply being Dunyian will not suffice. As Achamian says, if Kellhus were to learn the Gnosis, with his intellect he would be "more than Seswatha" arguably the greatest of the Mandati. If the No God etc were not on the scene, then Kellhus might be better off leaving sorcery for what it is... I'm sure the people of the Three Seas would come to see the value of the sorcerors when The Second Apocalypse manifests itself. Yet even then, Kellhus would still be vulnerable to chorae, very vulnerable. I don't think this is something that is even remotely acceptable to Kellhus, so I think we can expect him to work around that, in ways yet to be revealed. view post


posted 21 Aug 2005, 08:08 in Author Q & ACnaiur's prowess by Mithfânion, Didact

CC [i:15hh3k7b]As for the Nonmen description, I don't recall any mention of its face. [/i:15hh3k7b] There is a description actually, that being the one in which Achamian recalls Mekeritrig's face as "inhumanly beautiful". It's in TWP. view post


posted 22 Aug 2005, 17:08 in Author Q & ATTT cover by Mithfânion, Didact

I'd say so yes. view post


posted 22 Aug 2005, 19:08 in Author Q & ACharacter heights in Earwa by Mithfânion, Didact

Late addition, Scott, how tall would you say Maithanet is? What about Saubon? view post


Worldhorn & Heron Spear posted 26 Aug 2005, 16:08 in Author Q & AWorldhorn & Heron Spear by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, Whilst reading TWP, two ancient artifacts really came to the fore, those being the Heron Spear, which somehow doomed Mog Pharau himself, and the Worldhorn, which was sounded by Nymeric, who you have said was an Anasurimbor King of the Aorsi (a people described as the great bulwark of the North). This raises the following questions: 1. Achamian mentions that the Heron Spear is lost, destroyed even in the sacking of Cenei by the Scylvendi barbarians. Is this a fact, or a belief? 2. What did the Heron Spear look like? Like your average spear, wood with an iron tip? 3. Nymeric sounds the Worldhorn over and over again. What powers does the Worldhorn have, how is it different from other horns and also, what does it look like, compared to other horns? 3. The mention of several Anasurimbors in the past prompts me to ask whether, at the present ( Prince of Nothing timeline), there are more Anasurimbors than the two living ones on the books.... Kellhus doesn't seem to think there are. view post


Moenghus and Skiotha (and more) posted 28 Aug 2005, 16:08 in Author Q & AMoenghus and Skiotha (and more) by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, will it be revealed in TTT how Moenghus actually killed Skiotha? If not, may I ask, it is only mentioned that Skiotha lay slumped before him in the cold mud, and that Moenghus was known as the one who spoke "the killing words". Was that meant in a very general sense or did he actually pronounce something that killed Skiotha (like a curse). Or did he kill him in single combat? I also have one further question: At the end of TWP we see Nonmen who lead the Sranc, but then defer to the Inchoroi. Why is it that they defer to him, being Nonmen? As I understood it, Nonmen were not the lessers of Inchoroi, in fact one would think it's the other way around. Does it have to do with the fact that the the Inchoroi is simply chief among the servants of the No-God and thus they defer to him in principle or is he simply a greater power than them? It's also mentioned that they have "shining scalps". Are all Nonmen bald? view post


posted 29 Aug 2005, 12:08 in The Darkness That Comes BeforeYour less favourite characters by Mithfânion, Didact

Conphas and Xerius top my list. Proyas leaves me cold. Haven't seen enough of Maithanet or Mallahet to judge them as characters, tehya re certainly intriguing. view post


posted 29 Aug 2005, 12:08 in The Darkness That Comes Beforesranc by Mithfânion, Didact

I think what differentiates Sranc from Tolkien's Orcs is that your average Sranc appears to be more than a match for your average Man, whereas Orcs were usually somewhat inferior to the Men of Middle-earth. Certainly a lethal foe because of their numbers. And very very fast. If you can't even outrun them on horses, as is mentioned in the books, well that's just scary. view post


posted 29 Aug 2005, 14:08 in The Thousandfold Thoughtlivin n dyin in TTT by Mithfânion, Didact

On the matter of Iyokus, I got the distinct impression that he was dead as a doornail in TWP, killed by Achamian. Achamian battles the Ciphrang, sees Iyokus and then releases a thousands lights. I took that to be the end of Iyokus. view post


posted 30 Aug 2005, 07:08 in The Thousandfold ThoughtMost cruel act yet? by Mithfânion, Didact

Yes and then theer's the added resentment of a lifetime long being scoffed at by your clansmen. Faggot weeper. Nice. view post


posted 30 Aug 2005, 07:08 in The Warrior ProphetCnaiur and Serwe by Mithfânion, Didact

Still not wholly sure why he was that fond of her myself... view post


posted 30 Aug 2005, 07:08 in The Warrior Prophetquestion about achamian? by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:364p7yy3]I thoought that whether that was telepathy was left ambiguous - we could also assume Kelhus is hallucinating and that Akka is out of his mind with emotion over Esmi. [/i:364p7yy3] Well it does appear tp be telepathic. It's possible that it derives from the state Kellhus was in but nevertheless, he as a clear communication with Achamian but remember, he also has one with Cnaiur. Personally I think he will be taught the Gnosis, and I hope it happens as well. Should be very interesting indeed. view post


posted 31 Aug 2005, 05:08 in The Warrior ProphetCnaiur and Serwe by Mithfânion, Didact

Well of course he doesn't need a reason, it was more along the lines of whether he was really in love with her, or was she only a substitute, a means to an end. view post


posted 31 Aug 2005, 13:08 in The Warrior ProphetA brief history of Earwa? by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:2zh8b18a]Things that don't fit: Nonmen - which side did they fight on in the First Apocalypse? Did they fight on both sides? [/i:2zh8b18a] In short, yes. Scott has explained that the Nonmen fought both for the No-God and against him. They are somewhat ambiguous in this respect unlike Tolkien's Eldar, whom they be might be loosely modelled on. The Inchoroi's role in the First Apocalypse is unknown. Obviously they were decimated a long time before the Apocalypse, though a few may have survived, now ending with the two princes we have met sofar. Those present would undoubtedly have fought with the Consult. The position of the Inchoroi within the Consult is something I would really like Scott to shed some light on, as well as who the members of the Consult are (outside of the low ranked Skin spies that we have seen sofar), which is why I have asked both these questions in the Q&A forum. AS WL says, one would expect them to be high ranked, perhaps even the top members. What interested me was why the Nonmen (Erratics presumably) deferred to the Inchoroi at the end of TWP. view post


posted 31 Aug 2005, 13:08 in The Warrior ProphetThe No-God by Mithfânion, Didact

I still have no real idea what the No God is. How did he arise in the first place? What sort of being is he? Did the Inchoroi create him and did The Great Ruiner only become their master afterwards, or was he ever their master? Achamian mentions that the renewed use of the Tekne indicates the nearnness of his return. So that is what is being used now, but was the Tekne used to bring him about in the beginning as well, or are they only doing that because they had salvaged his remains back at the Plains of Mengedda (which Akka confirms) at the end of the First Apocalypse. view post


posted 31 Aug 2005, 13:08 in The Warrior Prophetconsult v. cishaurim by Mithfânion, Didact

The answer is that we don't know why they are after the Cishaurim rather than the other Schools and nations. They do not know what Dunyain are so they don't know that Moenghus is there, though they may have noticed that their prime enemy resides there, it's just that hid identity has remained unrevealed. Additionally it has been suggested by another poster that Shimeh's fall will somehow be literally instrumental to the rise of the No-God and Golgotterath. Perhaps it works as some sort of Bulwark against it's rising, suggesting that it may be truly a Holy City.... view post


posted 01 Sep 2005, 07:09 in The Warrior Prophetconsult v. cishaurim by Mithfânion, Didact

It could be that Shimeh won't actually fall yet in TTT, but only later... I find the whole idea of Shimeh being connected to teh rise of Golgotterath and Mog Pharau intriguing, but there's little evidence for it. It would explain why the Consult is so eager to see the Holy War succesful outside of the conventional explanation which is that the Consult want to take out the Cishaurim. view post


posted 01 Sep 2005, 07:09 in The Warrior ProphetA brief history of Earwa? by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:1cr1e7um]So to say that the "Nonmen" fought on the side of the Consult is wrong, because they never did so in any significant numbers. [/i:1cr1e7um] This is quibbling about semantics. A) It is specifically not wrong, because we know that Nonmen fought [b:1cr1e7um]for[/b:1cr1e7um] the No-God. Now, how you yourself choose to qualify and categorize that is your own business, I'm just stating what is clear and presently mentioned in the books and on this board. B) Whether or not the Nonmen fought for the No-God in insignifcant numbers is something you don't know. It's just your speculation. Since neither you nor anyone else knows the numbers of the Nonmen population [b:1cr1e7um]as a whole[/b:1cr1e7um] , we can't say how big a percentage of the Nonmen fought for the Consult. What we know is that there were Nonmen who fought for and against the No God. This is mentioned in the books. Even if it is just a small percentage, the statement that the Nonmen are an ambiguous people who have fought for and against Mog Pharau remains as correct as can be, doesn't it? In the same way we can say that Men fought both for and against the No-God. Furthermore, you say that [i:1cr1e7um]There is a post by Scott where he clearly says that the Erratics number perhaps a few thousands, and that they have always served the Consult. [/i:1cr1e7um] Which is not correct. What Scott said was that there are "a few hundred" Nonmen that serve the Consult. http://www.forum.three-seas.com/viewtopic.php?t=18 view post


posted 01 Sep 2005, 12:09 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSerious TTT thoughts, predictions, ideas... by Mithfânion, Didact

Good call Anor on catching that little quote from Achamian which say that the Holy War not so much failed as was transformed. This is but one of the reasons why it seems clear that with Kellhus taking the lead among the Inrtith and with Moenghus taking (or already being in) the lead of the Fanim, they will take over it's direction. Of course, how this plays out, what their aims are (or even if the aims of Kellhus and Moenghus coincide) remains to be seen. As does whether or not people like Conphas and Proyas will be seduced as well, and how the Emperor will react. As for the identity of Mallahet en Maithanet. Mallahet simply has to have some sort of tie to Moenghus. But I don't think that Moenghus still is Mallahet, or even if he ever was. In general I am terribly curious about what Moenghus will look like. Maithanet: I doubt he is either Moenghus or, as I initially thought, a skin spy. His agenda is not clear and it may be that he is in league with Moenghus. view post


posted 01 Sep 2005, 12:09 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Destruction of the Dunyain by Mithfânion, Didact

I think the idea of The Dunyain siding with anyone from the outside world needs to be revised. They live in total isolation and to do so is one of their main goals. Just the fact that someone from the outside contacts them through dreams is enough to take their life. I do not see a scenario in which Kellhus has access to various Dunyain to sniff out skin spies all over the place, because that is not what they do. If they are to ally with anyone, may that be Kellhus, the Cunuroi or simply the Men of the North, their very nature and beliefs would have to change completely. BTW I think Scott mentioned something about female Dunyain and whether we might see them in Aspect Emperor. view post


posted 01 Sep 2005, 23:09 in The Warrior ProphetCnaiur and Serwe by Mithfânion, Didact

Oh please, spare me ;) view post


posted 01 Sep 2005, 23:09 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Destruction of the Dunyain by Mithfânion, Didact

It's possible, but it would require the Dunyain to change, as I said in my previous post, to completely alter their ideas about how to live. Their principle is to live in utmost seclusion, to not be tainted in any way. As I see it, if the Dunyain are willing to slay themselves because someone interfered with their purity by sending them dreams, they're likely to react similarly suicidal when an invasion force comes along that manages to overcome them. view post


posted 02 Sep 2005, 00:09 in The Warrior ProphetA brief history of Earwa? by Mithfânion, Didact

WL, Murrin has explained my post to you as good as can be done. I do however refute your argument that I am merely speculating, like you are when you say that the Nonmen only fought for Mog Pharau in insignificant numbers. Since you don't know how many Nonmen there are [b:3aj1py3k]in total[/b:3aj1py3k], you can't say anything about the percentage of Erratics and other Cunuroi that serve No-God. Maybe they form a significant part of the whole Nonmen population. Maybe not. One would hope not anyway. [i:3aj1py3k]Well, I have been saying more or less the same thing from the very beginning, but still he had something to say against that, telling me I was quibbling with semantics. So I'm still waiting for him to tell me what he did mean.[/i:3aj1py3k] All of this stems from you misunderstanding my post. When I say the Nonmen fought for and against the No-God, I am stating a fact. I never said that [b:3aj1py3k]All the Nonmen fought for and against the No-God[/b:3aj1py3k] so there is no need to attach that. You did, however,attach that in your mind when reading my post, and thus want to qualify that. But since I never meant the Nonmen as a whole in the first place, and also didn't specifically state that, I don't need to qualify anything. And in this same light my statement that the Nonmen can be seen as an ambiguous people is perfectly correct. There are those Nonmen that choose to fight for the Consult, and others who oppose them. And the same applies to the race of Men, who have members serving Mog Pharau and members who oppose him. view post


posted 02 Sep 2005, 07:09 in The Warrior ProphetA brief history of Earwa? by Mithfânion, Didact

Do as you like White Lord, it's no skin off my nose ;) It's somewhat curious to see how this goes. I make a post with a simple statement of fact. You come in, authoritatively state that we need to make "a few qualifications" when really, we don't, and I reply to that. You then start to speculate about whether or not the Nonmen who serve under the Consult are an insignifcant number but when I point out that it is just that, you're ruffled and claim that the presented facts are also just speculation. Now, in my latest post I give you another explanation of what was meant, and rather than admit that you've simply misread or misunderstood my post you basically claim that I am taking the moral high ground. [i:3bc9qc1u] I hope we can resurrect this thread in a few months or whenever, to see who was right and who was wrong.[/i:3bc9qc1u] We don't need to wait for the future White Lord, since we already know that the Nonmen fought both for and against the No-God. That's the way it goes with facts rather than poster's opinions and speculations, which may need to be revised. BTW [i:3bc9qc1u]The gist of those posts would tend to confirm my own speculation however. No mention of Nonmen, just Erratics, as Consult servants.[/i:3bc9qc1u] There is no need to make this peculiar self-made distinction. Erratics [b:3bc9qc1u]are[/b:3bc9qc1u] Nonmen, Nonmen gone bad. view post


posted 02 Sep 2005, 09:09 in The Warrior ProphetA brief history of Earwa? by Mithfânion, Didact

I'm not sidestepping your questions WL, there's no need to nor do I desire that. You've misinterpreted my post, I've explained what I meant and any discussion following from that misinterpretation is useless. [i:2h1f4bkq]Do you deny that when someone says "Nonmen fought both for and against the No-God" what is most likely to be assumed is that the Nonman nation as a whole (or in substantial numbers) fought for him and then against him? [/i:2h1f4bkq] Yes, I do. It's a matter of interpretation, and it wouldn't be a big deal if you hadn't reacted so pedantic to it. For my part, your manner of posting tends to be very " authoritative " and that does annoy me somewhat. [i:2h1f4bkq]Do we have enough information to claim that the whole Nonman nation fought for the No-God at some point? No we don't, and that was what I was trying to say. [/i:2h1f4bkq] And we are completely in agreement here. In fact we as far as we know the majority of the Nonmen opposed the No-God. Another reason why I would never claim [b:2h1f4bkq] All[/b:2h1f4bkq] Cunuroi fought for him. [i:2h1f4bkq]So to end this: what I'm trying to do here is to get to the bottom of the real desires and interests of the Nonman nation as a whole, which is more important than what given individual Nonmen have done, and the same holds true for Men, of which we know more, so we can make more guesses or statements of fact. [/i:2h1f4bkq] What the overall desires and interests are is not really known at this point. Do they still harbour resentment towards Mankind for previous slaughter? Exactly how diminished are they? In any case, it seems to me that the majority of the Nonmen will yet side with the forces of "Light". Which takes nothing away from the fact that as a people, they are ambiguous in their attitude. Some choose the way of the Consult, some (the majority) don't. Hope that helps. [/i] view post


posted 06 Sep 2005, 16:09 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Destruction of the Dunyain by Mithfânion, Didact

And again, I do not agree with what you have to say :) [i:3e2a1h8n]Are you saying that Moenghus and Kellhus were unable to change after going "outside"? And why didn't they kill themselves when they were forced to abandon the other Dunyain[/i:3e2a1h8n] Did you see me say that? No. Moenghus and Kellhus are men on a mission. They are [b:3e2a1h8n]willing[/b:3e2a1h8n] to change, or at least we have seen that Kellhus is. They are willing to change because they are on a mission and [b:3e2a1h8n]thrust into the world of worlborn Men[/b:3e2a1h8n]. The Dunyain in Ishual however are a very secluded people who believe their best interests are served by keeping it that way, who want to stay as [b:3e2a1h8n]pure[/b:3e2a1h8n] as possible. They still have each other and have no reason to change policy, no reason to want to change. Unlike Kellhus. I am not saying that the Dunyain allying with Nonmen or the Consult or the world of worlborn Men is impossible, but it would require a complete turnaround of their mindset. Even the dreams of an intruder are enough to kill themselves. You cannot possibly think these very people would willingly ally themselves with other outside influences. No way. Unless, they do a turnaround and their mindset changes, as I said from the start. Maybe if they see the advantages of interacting with the world and cease seeing it as a great disruption from their path..... [i:3e2a1h8n]When that changes they certainly won't self-destruct. There would be no point erasing a 2000-year-old project when there is no absolute and inevitable need to do so[/i:3e2a1h8n] That's just your speculation yet you talk as if it were a certainty. If anything there is evidence to believe they will, since they committed suicide over an invasive dream. The only reason you say they won't, is because you simply can't believe they would do it. [i:3e2a1h8n]The most important thing, in fact, is the survival of the Dunyain at all costs, so the Mission can continue. [/i:3e2a1h8n] Again, speculation. What the Dunyain's mission seems to be is Logos related. If they feel their goal would be achieved best by killing themselves than they look like they'd do it in a heartbeat. [/i] view post


posted 06 Sep 2005, 16:09 in The Thousandfold ThoughtNonmen who and what are they? by Mithfânion, Didact

That would be lame, wouldn't it? I think it's a much cooler idea to think of them as native to Earwa, the most powerful people fighting against the alien Inchoroi. view post


posted 06 Sep 2005, 19:09 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Destruction of the Dunyain by Mithfânion, Didact

White Lord, I feel the same way; I've tired of discussions with you as well. Your below the belt remarks and insinuations that I continue to ignore your oh so relevant observations are a major irritant. That being said, I feel similarly about the state of the board. Perhaps the two of us have simply resulted to cannibalism ;) Twayleph, They could flee, again, but somehow that strikes me as unlikely. And there's the added fact that this time around, two of their greatest prodigies are in the outisde world. I can't help but think either of them might want to involve the Dunyain in some way. And for another matter, should either Kellhus or Moenghus fall into the hands of the Consult, they might be forced to betray the Dunyain and thus draw them in. view post


posted 07 Sep 2005, 21:09 in The Thousandfold ThoughtNonmen who and what are they? by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:1sbdumqf]WL: I'm not saying I'm 100% on board with the concept...I'm just saying that it is a possibility.[/i:1sbdumqf] AS WL says, it's not even that. We know they are organic, they reproduce, had original lifespans of about 400 years etc. view post


posted 08 Sep 2005, 17:09 in Author Q & AQuestion about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* by Mithfânion, Didact

Yes, similar thoughts here. I ultimately too it to mean it was symbolic since he shouldn't be able to literally do it, but it was written as though it had been done literally. That whole sequence was rather "dreamy" anyway. view post


posted 08 Sep 2005, 17:09 in Author Q & ACunuroi/Inchoroi numbers by Mithfânion, Didact

And, should Sir Bakker ever see fit to return, :twisted: may I also ask, who is the current Nonman king if it is not Nin-Ciljiras? view post


posted 09 Sep 2005, 18:09 in Author Q & AQuestion about the ending of TWP *Spoiler Warning* by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:3879dl5k]This question came up before, and I don't know how people miss the reference to Serwe's and not Kellhus's heart . . . [/i:3879dl5k] That's because we're all very dumb White Lord, and we need the true brilliance of someone like yourself to enlighten us. :shock: view post


posted 12 Sep 2005, 15:09 in Author Q & AThe Nonmen by Mithfânion, Didact

I actually think that's a downside of the books sofar and something I hope Scott would imprrve upon somewhat in the future; the lack of descriptions for characters. Either their physique is not described at all, or very superficially (with a small number of exceptions). I'd like some more depth in this regard, not just descriptions of Nonmen but indeed also of the look of the Knights, what the names are of individual great Conriyan Knights, what the individual Thunyeri look like (other than being flaxen-haired) etc etc. Surrounding and such are described quite extensively, it's the characters (often secodary ones) which could use far more. view post


posted 12 Sep 2005, 21:09 in Author Q & AThe Nonmen by Mithfânion, Didact

Quite possibly Echoex. It's just not my personal preference. I like to make my own image as well, but based on a description of a character rather than an idea of one. view post


posted 13 Sep 2005, 19:09 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSerious TTT thoughts, predictions, ideas... by Mithfânion, Didact

When is it mentioned that Mallahet is Ketyai? I don't recall that. view post


posted 14 Sep 2005, 15:09 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSerious TTT thoughts, predictions, ideas... by Mithfânion, Didact

Erekassos I'm still waiting for proof that it somewhere says it's Mallahet who's Ketyai and that he therefore can't be Moenghus. I know Maithanet is not Norsirai, but you were talking about Mallahet, remember? :) view post


posted 11 Oct 2005, 17:10 in Author Q & ACunuroi/Inchoroi numbers by Mithfânion, Didact

Shameless bump. view post


posted 11 Oct 2005, 17:10 in Author Q & AMoenghus and Skiotha (and more) by Mithfânion, Didact

Shameless bump. view post


posted 11 Oct 2005, 17:10 in Author Q & ABashrag & Achamian by Mithfânion, Didact

Shameless bump. view post


posted 11 Oct 2005, 17:10 in Author Q & AWorldhorn & Heron Spear by Mithfânion, Didact

Final shameless bump. Didn't want these threads to go to the archive unanswered :) view post


posted 18 Oct 2005, 21:10 in Author Q & ACunuroi/Inchoroi numbers by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, could you say who or what is Nin-Ciljiras? He (or it) is mentioned by the Inchoroi... view post


posted 25 Oct 2005, 20:10 in Author Q & AWorldhorn & Heron Spear by Mithfânion, Didact

But the Worldhorn, is that like a regular horn or does it have hacve additional traits? Could you describe the look of it perhaps? view post


posted 25 Oct 2005, 20:10 in Author Q & ACunuroi/Inchoroi numbers by Mithfânion, Didact

You mean for the two Aspect Emperor books? view post


posted 03 Nov 2005, 21:11 in Author Q & AThe Thousandfold Thought - Paperback? Large print? Hard... by Mithfânion, Didact

It's a trade paperback. Very cool format. view post


posted 13 Dec 2005, 20:12 in The Thousandfold ThoughtAdvance Review of The Thousandfold Thought by Mithfânion, Didact

That's got me all slobbery Zarathustra. view post


posted 08 Jan 2006, 12:01 in Author Q & ADo we have a date? by Mithfânion, Didact

Which is very unfortunate, because when I ordered the book from Amazon.ca two weeks ago they said it would be shipped on January 1st. They lied. I detest it when that happens. view post


posted 27 Jan 2006, 23:01 in Author Q & AMen v. Nonmen by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:1vkr40dl]Sorry to dredge up this old topic but is the Nonman from the prologue of tDtCB the Nonman Erratic who reveals Golgotterath to the Gnostic Sorcerers prior to the First Apocalypse? [/i:1vkr40dl] Yes, that is the same Nonman. He's a ranking member of the Consult and referred to by Seswatha as a Nonman prince as well. view post


posted 05 Feb 2006, 21:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtExplanation for Achamian's survival?? by Mithfânion, Didact

I was also baffled by his survival. The reason is simply because of Scott's narrative. We learn that Achamian eventually loses the fight with the Ciphrang demon. It drags him away into the skies. Why does Achamian survive? Does the "trailing downward" mean that the Ciphrang perished before he could kill Achamian? It certainly seemed very intent on killing him. Cerrtainly there was mentioned made of it only being "an eye for an eye" but as we have seen, Achamian didn't lose his eye in exchange for what he did to Iyokus, so that can't have been it either. So how does he live? view post


posted 05 Feb 2006, 21:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtDELETED by Mithfânion, Didact

I was very pleased with the appendices, I have to say. It was pretty much what I was hoping for. view post


posted 05 Feb 2006, 22:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Dream that went wrong by Mithfânion, Didact

I think we're searching too deep here, or in the wrong direction. The dream was different this time, though we are never shown if Anaxophus actually does throw the Heron Spear, but I don't recall Anaxophus speaking in such a way the first time we had an account of Mog's Fall. So, it was odd. But I don't think it translated to Achamian himself, just something else which is too hard to put a finger on. It must have some sort of meaning. On another note, what was it that Seswatha told Celomos's son that he would find in the heart of Golgotterath, the thing that led him to go there? Clearly he didn't know he was searching for the Heron Spear, so what was it...? view post


Questions that haunt me after just reading TTT. posted 05 Feb 2006, 22:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtQuestions that haunt me after just reading TTT. by Mithfânion, Didact

From a rather breathtaking 100 final pages, which I just read. Obviously, major spoiler to follow...... First I have to state the things that I couldn't figure out. Let me know your thoughts please. 1) Why does Moenghus have to die, according to Kellhus? Why does he do it? I've read the section a couple of times but I do not get a proper explanation. I guess the closest I come to is that Kellhus fears that Moenghus wishes to take his place and become Aspect Emperor instead, but Kellhus then speaks of "apocalyptic conspiracies" and " a counterfeit war against Golgotterath". Is he saying that Moenghus was or would have been in league with the No-God? Because given everything else we hear, that would be absurd. Moenghus strongly opposed them as much as he could, that much is clear. So why kill him? 2) I simply cannot see how Moenghus dies. Kellhus has stabbed him. Cnaiur comes to him, and the following happens: *Cnaiur admits to loving him, and kisses him on the mouth after Moenghus says he needs his strength. *Cnaiur graps into his breeches and Moenghus gasps, jerks and spasms as Cnaiur rolls out the chorea across his cheek.White light flares from Moenghus' sockets. [i:71cdpm1q]"But then his lover fell away, burning as he must, such was the force of what had possessed them".[/i:71cdpm1q] *Cnaiur cries out "not again!" , "how could you leave me?". What I don't get is: a) How does Moenghus die? Is it the Chorea? b) If it is the chorea, why does Cnaiur bring it forth if he doesn't want Moenghus to die? c) What does Moenghus need from Cnaiur anyway that requires his strength? I just don't get that part . Does he need Cnaiur to give him air? It seems odd that Moenghus would ask that, knowing he was about do die. This whole section is an unsatisfying blur to me. 3) Why does Achamian survive? No explanation is given for this. The Ciphrang beats him and then drags him away into the sky. How does he survive? Or rather, why? If it is as the Ciphrang says and it is only an eye that he came for, as per his Summoner's intstruction (Iyokus), then why does he not lose one? 4) Why did the Ciphrang go to the tent in which Little Moenghus lay, the one guarded by the single Hundred Pillars guardsmen? Presumably to ask after Achamian's whereabouts, as he later does, but the whole scene seemed rather odd to me. 5) Any idea what the secret could be that the Inchoroi Synthese (Aurang) tells the little boy? 6) On another note, what was it that Seswatha told Celomos's son that he would find in the heart of Golgotterath, the thing that led him to go there? Clearly he didn't know he was searching for the Heron Spear, so what was it...? view post


posted 05 Feb 2006, 22:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Meeting between Kellhus & Moenghus? by Mithfânion, Didact

I found the meeting between the two, or more specifically the climax of it, very peculiar. Why kill him? How does he die? Is ithe chorea or the knife wound. Why the chorea by Cniaur if he didn't want to kill him but save him? view post


posted 05 Feb 2006, 22:02 in Author Q & ASpoilerish question regarding Sorcery by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, to summarize from what I gathered when I read Kellhus's explanation about teh Cishaurim: Moenghus is limited because the Psukhe does not work on intellict but on passion, and a Cishaurim can only become as powerful as his own passions. This is basically the long and short of it, correct? But it is explained that the other Cishaurim look down upon Moenghus even as they respect his mind and powers, because he doesn't have access to "the water". They seem him as cursed by the Solitary God. What is meant by this? What does Moenghus lack that other Cishaurim don't? view post


posted 05 Feb 2006, 22:02 in Author Q & AA TTT question -possible spoilers inside, you've been warned by Mithfânion, Didact

And related to this curious "damnation" concept brought forth in TTT, why are the Dunyain also damned, and why would for instance Moenghus (as Kellhus submits) follow the same path as the Consult? view post


posted 05 Feb 2006, 22:02 in Author Q & ASpoilerish question regarding Sorcery by Mithfânion, Didact

Yes I understand that he is limited in terms of passion as a Dunyain, that's correct. But since we have come to know him as the most powerful member of the Cishaurim, and as one who is highly respected by the other Kishauri, what is it that he lacks? In what do the others surpass him, why do they think him cursed? The quote goes: [i:2iiarpgy]"Seokti and the others respect you, Kellhus continued. "Indeed as Mallahet you have a reputation that reaches across Kian and beyond. And you shine in the Third Sight. But secretly they all think you cursed by the Solitary God. Why else would the Water elude you?[/i:2iiarpgy] Also: [i:2iiarpgy]"Though your intellect could astound those about you and earn you access to their most priviliged counsels, the instance they found themselves beyond teh force of your presence, the undermining whispers rekindled. "He is weak'[/i:2iiarpgy] I wonder what is meant by shining in The Third Sight as well. view post


posted 05 Feb 2006, 23:02 in Author Q & ABashrag by Mithfânion, Didact

I see where a Balrog comparison might come from, if you would lay the Tolkien and Bakker bestiaries next to each other I guess these would correspond the most, but I think Balrogs are clearly far more powerful creatures, with deeper might and more intellect. Sofar the Bashrag seems big, brutish monsters, nothing that we have not really seen before. view post


posted 05 Feb 2006, 23:02 in Author Q & AAlso read TTT and puzzled - Warning : spoilers ! by Mithfânion, Didact

I believe *the* or *a* chorea hoard is in the possession of the Consult. I certainly recall Scott mentioning here that The Consult had a very large share of the existing chorea. view post


Cnaiur posted 07 Feb 2006, 21:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtCnaiur by Mithfânion, Didact

Some people seem to think his fate is in doubt. I guess I can see why because Scott didn't explicitly pronouce him dead, but IMO he is a dead man. In his final scene, we see that he thinks about his final swazond. This is supposedly where he kills himself, but we didn't get anyone's confirmation afterwards that he is dead. However, when Achamian returns to Shimeh and finds mighty Kellhus coronated, he remarks that there is no Eleazaras there, no Serwe, no Conphas and no Cnaiur. I thought this was Scott's way of saying that Cnaiur is dead, since the three others mentioned are confirmed as dead. Furthermore, Cnaiur is 45 years old now. I don't think he still has a role to play as a 65-year old Scylvendi. He'll be way, way past his prime by then, overrun by other Scylvendi if he should consider returning to them. I just don't see a point in his survival. His arc revolved all around Moenghus and his feelings for him and his refusal to admit to them. At the end, Moenghus is killed and he admits to himself that he only ever loved Moenghus. End of story. I also don't see a role for him in terms of raising his own son because the child has been renounced by him "("you are not of the People") plus Little Moenghus is generally seen as Kellhus' child by Serwe; The world doesn't know the child is Cnaiur's. The final page with Achamian clinched any doubts I had after the scene with him and Moenghus. It just seemed definitive to me that Cniaur was mentioned there as those who were no longer with us. view post


Cnaiur (spoilers for TTT) posted 07 Feb 2006, 22:02 in Author Q & ACnaiur (spoilers for TTT) by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, After reading TTT I thought it fairly obvious that Cnaiur had died, that being the combination of him talking of the final swazond and Achamian later telling us that Cniaur, like Eleazaras, Conphas and Serwe, was no longer to be seen. Since all three of those were confirmed dead I assumed Cnaiur to be fit in that list as truly dead as well. From a story arc point of view it makes perfect sense for him to be finished now, but in any case, can you confirm that he did indeed die? view post


posted 08 Feb 2006, 17:02 in Author Q & ACnaiur (spoilers for TTT) by Mithfânion, Didact

Well Scott, you're right, that is somewhat frustrating an answer ;) What I take from that is that we will like see Cnaiur back after all, but probably not the Cnaiur that we have known sofar. A Cnaiur allied with the Consult perhaps? On the other hand, what purpose would he serve twenty years into the future? Wouldn't it be time for a new generation? What children will Kellhus father on Esmenet? Will he take more wives, given the goal of spreading the Anasurimbor blood? What'll become of Little Moenghus? I mean, Cnaiur would be a 65 year old Scylvendi by that time, way past his prime, if he should continue to live "a natural life". view post


posted 08 Feb 2006, 17:02 in Author Q & ANeuropath by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, put like this it looks more like Aspect Emperor is more likely to be published before Neuropath, correct? view post


posted 08 Feb 2006, 17:02 in Author Q & AJust finished TTT by Mithfânion, Didact

Personally I think the realism and sheer force of Kellhus' narrative of Ascendancy is one of the series' most powerful aspects. Kellhus' power with the Gnosis had been foreshadowed a couple of times, someone who might even surpass Seswatha, and I think that Kellhus will bear that out in future volumes. It is because of his vast intellect that he would naturally surpass even naturally gifted sorcerers. When just starting his studies with Achmanian he already suggested a second inutteral, which was unheard of, since even one was very hard indeed. Maybe the best scene of the book for me was when we first see Kellhus being taught by Achamian. Kellhus has just performed some sort of hypnosis on Achamian that would allow Achamian to teach him the Gnosis and sentences that Achamian took month to learn are repeated by Kellhus at once. I loved how it was described how suddenly his eyes flashed and a deep rumbling could be felt all around, with Kellhus murmuring "Yes.........". view post


posted 08 Feb 2006, 17:02 in Author Q & AA TTT question -possible spoilers inside, you've been warned by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:2qzaaauy]And there are very real consequences for the kind of life anyone leads, whether they think themselves innocent or not. This makes 'saving one's soul' a very real dilemma, with very real motivational power. [/i:2qzaaauy] Thanks for that little explanation Scott, it makes the Consult's motivation more believable for me, less vague. I know we are told in the book that this is because they believe themselves to be damned if they don't, but to learn that there actually [b:2qzaaauy]are[/b:2qzaaauy] consequences in Earwa (and thus their fears are grounded) makes a world of difference. view post


posted 08 Feb 2006, 17:02 in Author Q & AWorldhorn & Heron Spear by Mithfânion, Didact

So threading back to this thread post_TTT: 1) It seems that The Heron Spear was definitly lost. 2) It was a weapon of light. 3) The answer was yes, for a time :) Three questions: What I found strange was that the Heron Spear was actually a weapon used by the Inchoroi, by their King (Sil) no less. How then does it follow that it is the antidote to their greatest weapon, the No-God? Secondly, is there a chance we will see the Worldhorn again? I guess I ask because of my fascination with horns, I already loved it when I read about the Thunyeri horns pealing across the plains. Thirdly, outside of the Heron Spear, which is lost, are there still Inchoroi weapons of light remaining in Earwa? If so, may they turn up in Aspect Emperor? Or have they all been destroyed in the Cunu-Inchoroi wars? view post


Maithanet (TTT Spoilers) posted 08 Feb 2006, 18:02 in Author Q & AMaithanet (TTT Spoilers) by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, I was wondering, is Maithanet younger than Kellhus? I would expect so, but his descriptions make him seem older than Kellhus. Are they close in age? BTW Kellhus would be 35 at trilogy's end, correct? view post


posted 09 Feb 2006, 21:02 in Author Q & AA question about NonMen TTT(semispoilerish) by Mithfânion, Didact

I believe Scott mentioned it was about 400 years. view post


posted 09 Feb 2006, 21:02 in Author Q & AMaithanet (TTT Spoilers) by Mithfânion, Didact

As I say, logically he should be younger since he was born after Moenghus left Ishual. On the other hand, his descriptions (we've had a few) make him come across as older. Which is why I wondered if Scott could confirm his age, or if there is perhaps some other reason for him coming across as older. view post


Some questions regarding Tryse, Cunuroi and Miracles posted 10 Feb 2006, 22:02 in Author Q & ASome questions regarding Tryse, Cunuroi and Miracles by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, hope you don't mind but I have some more questions after reading the glossary. 1) The glossary mentions the [b:1l8ffia3]Knights of Tryse[/b:1l8ffia3], an order of knights also known as [b:1l8ffia3]"The Knights of the Ur-Throne"[/b:1l8ffia3] whose specific task was defending the "Anasurimbor Dynasty". Is this an institution likely to be re-introduced now? 2)The glossary also mentions The Three Miracles of The Warrior Prophet but then only goes on to name two. Some have already wondered what the third one was. Can you reveal what it was, or is the Third one yet to come? 3) Will we see more of the Nonmen in the two Aspect Emperor books than the (admittedly intriguing) glimpses we had in PoN? 4) Is there anything you can say about their current King, Nin-Ciljiras? He is only mentioned once in the story proper, by Aurang, and that was somewhat derogatory. Is he last in a herediary line of Kings, or are the Nonman Kings chosen? 5) Did the Womb-plague truly eleminate [b:1l8ffia3]all[/b:1l8ffia3] Nonmen women? There have been no Nonmen born ever since, whatsoever? 6) Perhaps this is too much to say for you, but what are the chances of Aspect Emperor bringing us back to the North, to see the ancient cities of Sakarpus and Athrithau, where Kellhus has already established followers ( The Adunyaini)? Discard all coyness I say! ;) view post


posted 11 Feb 2006, 11:02 in The Thousandfold Thoughtfuture of PON by Mithfânion, Didact

Aspect Emperor will be a duology, as recently confirmed by Orbit on their website. First one due next year. view post


posted 12 Feb 2006, 10:02 in The Thousandfold Thoughtfuture of PON by Mithfânion, Didact

Twayleph Twayleph http://www.orbitbooks.co.uk/orbit/news. ... &CID=orbit BTW does anyone else always have to log in twice whenever you come to this board? So irritating, considering I always click on the "remember me" icon when I log in but not only is it never remembered but I have to enter everything twice. view post


posted 16 Feb 2006, 20:02 in Author Q & AWorldhorn & Heron Spear by Mithfânion, Didact

All, I agree that the Heron Spear is most likely non-sorcerous, insofar as that the Tekne is not a sorcerous craft. Clearly Mog Pharau's chorae did not deter it. I'm just curious about the relationship between the Heron being the most powerful weapon of the Inchoroi and how it is the sole thing capable of killing Lokung. Mog, I agree with you that it is very possible the Heron Spear will not be recovered. Because if the ultimate conclusion is just finding the Heron spear again, it's too much of a repetition of the First Apocalypse, isn't it? On the other hand it would be interesting to see it being used [b:26tdz8um]against[/b:26tdz8um] the world of Men, by the Consult. It was mentioned as having its whereabouts being unknown, rather than listed as destroyed, so clearly Scott left an opening there for future plot developments. I'm thinking more along the lines of Kellhus being the main opposition of the No-God, rather than an artifact. view post


posted 16 Feb 2006, 21:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtNostalgia: Fav part of the trilogy? by Mithfânion, Didact

*Seswatha's various dreams *Picturing the Cunu-Inchoroi wars * Various sequences with Kellhus, such as: [list=]Kellhus vs Mekeritrig Kellhus vs Cnaiur Kellhus vs Zeumi sword dancer (single stroke) Kellhus vs Sarcellus in the pole game Kellhus being taught the Gnosis by Achamian and speaking his first cant, with the world rumbling all around him Kellhus sitting on a dais with the Lords of the Holy War in front of him Kellhus being anointed as Aspect Emperor [/list] Most disturbing and shocking? The treatment of Xunnurit by Xerius, his eyes stabbed out, totally emasculated and chained to his throne. The sheer cruelty of it. view post


posted 16 Feb 2006, 21:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtMekeritrig by Mithfânion, Didact

I would not expect Mekeritrig to turn sides again though. He is clearly esatblished as one of the chief members of the Consult and may well prove to be a formidable enemy. view post


posted 18 Feb 2006, 10:02 in Author Q & AWorldhorn & Heron Spear by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott: [i:2deubkgd]What I found strange was that the Heron Spear was actually a weapon used by the Inchoroi, by their King (Sil) no less. How then does it follow that it is the antidote to their greatest weapon, the No-God? Secondly, is there a chance we will see the Worldhorn again? I guess I ask because of my fascination with horns, I already loved it when I read about the Thunyeri horns pealing across the plains. Thirdly, outside of the Heron Spear, which is lost, are there still Inchoroi weapons of light remaining in Earwa? If so, may they turn up in Aspect Emperor? Or have they all been destroyed in the Cunu-Inchoroi wars?[/i:2deubkgd] [b:2deubkgd] No comment ;)[/b:2deubkgd] Are you honestly saying that all three of these questions are dealt with in the next book(s)? view post


posted 18 Feb 2006, 10:02 in Author Q & ASome questions regarding Tryse, Cunuroi and Miracles by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott, the only recent question I did that with was the one about Cnaiur ;) Is there no bone you can throw me about any of these questions? Otherwise you simply force me to book a flight to the Great White North and relieve you of some AE manuscripts :D view post


posted 18 Feb 2006, 10:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe No-God by Mithfânion, Didact

I've had trouble imagining Mog Pharau from the start. How should I imagine a "carapace"? What is that, some sort of coffin? And that coffins contains Chorea right? And it stands vertically within the whirlwind? Is there an incarnate body of some kind? I thought there would be since he is described as a "he" instead of an "it" but maybe that's not relevant. view post


posted 19 Feb 2006, 11:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe No-God by Mithfânion, Didact

[i:ig0dfsvj]I find it interesting that the No-God seems to exert some sort of control, and talks through, only those creatures WITHOUT souls. This, to me, seems to be our biggest clue as to the essence of what it is. [/i:ig0dfsvj] Shryke, I am not so sure Sranc, Bashrag or Wracu are soulless at all. Was this mentioned at any point, specifically? Mog [i:ig0dfsvj]The Bashrag seem to be three human bodies fused into one, while I think the Wracu are directly spoken of as creations. Or am I totally making this up?[/i:ig0dfsvj] Well the Bashrag, like the Sranc, seem to have been made using the Cunuroi genome rather than the human one. On the No-God in general: As was mentioned, the No-God is described as being summoned. I therefore do not think he is, like the Heron Spear, an original creation of the Inchoroi Tekne though I realize of course that we cannot exclude that possibility at the moment. Obviously the Inchoroi must have had earlier knowledge of the No-God (perhaps from the planet where they originally hailed from) because otherwise I don't see why they would summon him. I do know that it was mentioned that they are using the Tekne to [b:ig0dfsvj]resurrect[/b:ig0dfsvj] him, but that is a different matter. Orginally, he was [b:ig0dfsvj]summoned[/b:ig0dfsvj]. Now, note that Kellhus, in his infinte cleverness, touches on a sore point in his conversation with Aurang when he states that the No-God speaks to him and has let Kellhus know that he is displeased with Aurang, who "failed him". This clearly agitates Aurang greatly. We also have the other Inchoroi at TWP's end who once more confirms the reverence for the No-God. This further confirms (to me) that the No-God is something greater than the Inchoroi, something greater than what they could create. They did not control the No-God, but worked for him, even as he furthered their ultimate goal of mass extinction. What I personally wonder about is why Kellhsu dreams of him [b:ig0dfsvj]now[/b:ig0dfsvj]. What does this mean? It would seem to indicate that Mog Pharau's mind or spirit is still very much alive, and just waiting for it to be resurrected. view post


posted 22 Feb 2006, 19:02 in The Thousandfold ThoughtInchoroi Origins/Aims by Mithfânion, Didact

EE [quote:rz1fe0ko]Wracu, Sranc, etc do not have souls.[/quote:rz1fe0ko] Where was this confirmed? All we know is that they are creations of the Inchoroi. We also know that in earlier days the craft of the Inchoroi was far greater than it was now. Why automatically assume they are soulless, simply because skin spies are? view post


posted 04 Mar 2006, 20:03 in Author Q & AWorldhorn & Heron Spear by Mithfânion, Didact

I don't know, that sounds kind of confused to me. The glossary merely states that it was the Heron Spear, "so named because of it's unique shape". A heron: http://www.chicagobotanic.org/research/ ... /Heron.jpg This sounds silly, but in order for this to be correct, Earwa would need to have herons just like we have in our own world. I'm thinking the Heron refers to something else. Maybe Scott could give some enlightenment about it's shape? view post


posted 04 Mar 2006, 20:03 in The Thousandfold ThoughtSuper-Sorcery by Mithfânion, Didact

It's an interesting idea. Personally though I think we'll only see part of this come true. I suspect there is a good chance ( though certainly nto a given) that Kellhus, in the twenty years time that he now has to dwell somewhat on these matters, will come up with some revelations. One of these migth well be finding a way to become invulnerable. This would not be unreal. We have learned from Achamian that Kellhus' mind was beyond anything he had witnessed. Kellhus even went sofar as to correct and re-write the thesis of Earwa greats like Ajencis, and the great mathematicians. The vulnerability by chorea, which can fall into the hands of anyone, must be a major downside that Kellhus must undountedly be considering and seek to remedy. view post


posted 04 Mar 2006, 20:03 in The Thousandfold ThoughtCharacters in Aspect-Emperor by Mithfânion, Didact

I do not expect to see Cnaiur back. I'm also not sure any of the Great Lords like Proyas, Saubon etc will have roles bigger than they had now. Given the passing of so much time, I think we'll see a great deal of new characters actually. People that have worked their way up in Kellhus' hierarchy, becoming Nascenti or have other roles. We'll see an increase in presences from the Consult, with the story entering a more decisive phase, and then having to resort to something else than Skin Spies. I see a bigger role for the Nonmen, certainly. We'll see some Zeumi. I hope that the story will take us to the North, where this is so much unseen land and so much mystery and true danger. We may see the rise of some new institutions like The Knights of Tryse, defenders of the Anasurimbor (see glossary). I think Kellhus' child/children will play a signifcant role. I wonder if it is a coincidence that the story skips enough time for them to go from babe to fully grown adults. Cnaiur's son as well of couse. I suspect Kellhus will try to father several children givern earlier comments in PoN. And Maithanet as well. Personally I hope to see some more of the very cool Thunyeri. view post


posted 04 Mar 2006, 20:03 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe Meeting between Kellhus & Moenghus? by Mithfânion, Didact

Noctis [quote:1ngqaz0t]1. Kellhus convinced Moenghus that he (Kellhus) was insane, and at that point, Moenghus was going to try to remove him from the field (as defective Dunyain or whatever); so it was kill or be killed. [/quote:1ngqaz0t] Hmmm. I read that scene differently. It seemed clear to me that Kellhus was relaying his story to Moenghus, and that Moenghus deduced that what Kellhus said ( which we know to be true) simply could not be. I did not get the impression that Kellhus did that deliberatly, so that he would himself be forced into a kill or be-killed situation. BTW Abyss, does Kellhus actually cleam that God speaks to him, aside from the No-God doing so as well? view post


posted 11 Mar 2006, 11:03 in Author Q & AAspect-Emperor status by Mithfânion, Didact

Scott: [quote:2be9o7ps]The contract with Orbit UK has already been agreed upon, and the contracts with Penguin and Overlook will probably be wrapped up soon. The delivery date I'm giving is January 07, which should put the pub date somewhere late spring, early summer.[/quote:2be9o7ps] Scott, I was wondering, since you found out in PoN that you're a "one and half year per book" author is that a realistic date for Aspect Emperor? Wouldn't that mean that you now have to finish the first book in 10 months time? Have you continued writing AE or are you still working on Neuropath? view post


posted 15 Mar 2006, 19:03 in Author Q & AWhy are Kellhus and Moenghus of the Few? by Mithfânion, Didact

Which triggers the assumption that the Dunyain are in fact more likely to be of the Few than Non-Dunyain. Is that a correct assumption Scott? view post


posted 08 Sep 2006, 00:09 in Author Q & AAspect-Emperor status by Mithfânion, Didact

Hey Scottonimous, Any updates on AE? Cheers, Mith :D view post


posted 15 Nov 2006, 21:11 in Author Q & AAspect-Emperor status by Mithfânion, Didact

An update of any sort would be nice, yes, to say the very least :) view post


posted 09 Mar 2007, 19:03 in Author Q & Aa follow on to prince of nothing? by Mithfânion, Didact

Hopefully Scott will see fit to post a reply on that soon. It's been an awfully long time. view post


posted 23 Mar 2007, 09:03 in Author Q & AAspect-Emperor status by Mithfânion, Didact

Did folks read the synopsis? It's pretty cool. Spoilers below of course: [quote:30tv5ciu]First he was the Prince of Nothing, then the Warrior-Prophet. Now Anasurimbor Kellhus is the Aspect-Emperor. But is he a living god. . . or a demon from hell? Book Information: Some twenty years have passed since the events narrated in The Prince of Nothing. Anasûrimbor Kellhus now rules all the Three Seas, the first true Aspect-Emperor in a thousand years. The masses worship him as a living god, though a few, the Orthodox, dare claim he’s a walking demon. With Proyas and Saubon as his Exalt-Generals, he leads a holy war called the Great Ordeal deep into the wastes of the Ancient North, intent on destroying Golgotterath and preventing the Second Apocalypse. Esmenet, meanwhile, remains in Momemn, where she struggles not only to rule his vast empire, but their murderous children as well. And Achamian, who lives as a Wizard in embittered exile, undertakes a mad quest to uncover the origins of the Dûnyain. [/quote:30tv5ciu] I wish we knew when the Canadian and US edition came out, cause they are usually months earlier. view post


posted 23 Mar 2007, 14:03 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]The Aspect-Emperor by Mithfânion, Didact

Madness, [quote:32h4fz0q]Now at the end of The Thousandfold Thought, again, I'm entirely convinced that Cû'jara Cinmoi has plans for the Dûnyain. As I've iterated before, once again I think in this very deleted post, I do not think that Kellhus is the most able or most intelligent Dûnyain from among them. [/quote:32h4fz0q] Just on this particular note I have to quibble. Scott has already stated that [i:32h4fz0q]" Kellhus is considered a Prodigy, even among the Dunyain" .[/i:32h4fz0q] Any of the Dunyain would apparantly be able to dominate normal men, but Kellhus most especially. Which, it has to be said, has indeed been established in the text sofar. view post


posted 23 Mar 2007, 21:03 in Author Q & AAspect-Emperor status by Mithfânion, Didact

In light of the news of a UK edition I contacted Penguin and Overlook to see if they had a date for the book as well. Now, this is odd. Penguin say they do not have the rights to the Canadian edition of this book at all. This is very peculiar since this should obviously have been wrapped up ages ago. They tell me that I should contact Overlook, but they are a US publisher. Overlook then tells me that they will publish AE "sometime in 2008" which is not exactly heartening and does not lead one to think the book will bve out sooner than the UK edition. It would be great if Scott could shed some light on all of this. Why is Penguin not doing the Canadian edition when they did such a great job with the trade paperbacks of the first trilogy? When will a Canadian edition come out and by who? view post


posted 26 Mar 2007, 10:03 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]The Aspect-Emperor by Mithfânion, Didact

[b:8nxl9gh5]I don't have my copies of the series at the moment, but can anyone recall any hints or reasons given that Moenghus left the Dunyain in the first place? I'd appreciate it. [/b:8nxl9gh5] I assume you simply mean why Moenghus turned to the Chisaurim? This was explained in the books. Moenghus was ordered to scout for what was surrounding Ishual and coming too close to it. When he returned from his mission the Dunyain exiled him because in their vision, he ha dnow been contaminated by the outside world. Ultimately he ends up with the Cishaurim, clearly the wrong choice for him afterwards, and shows the ability to provoke dreams in the minds of other Dunyain, thousands of miles away, demanding the release of his son. view post


posted 28 Mar 2007, 12:03 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]"Murderous Children" by Mithfânion, Didact

[quote:13cm4scn]It really seems the kids are becoming the focal point here. Moreso than the Consult.[/quote:13cm4scn] It doesn't seem that way to me from the synopsis. There'll be different POV chapaters again. We'll have a focus on Kellhus going North in a great war effort against the Consult. Esmenet will give us focus on the children. Achamian has his own POV again no doubt. There may well be more. Perhaps one of the children will have his or her own pov. We expect to see more of the Nonmen, though they will not have a POV according to Scott, we will see more of them in AE. I do believe we would also see Zeum. As for the children, I am really looking forwrad to this. I think Kellhus will have more than one child by Esmenet in that twenty year period. It's possible that he will also father children on other women. view post


posted 29 Jun 2007, 21:06 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]The Aspect-Emperor by Mithfânion, Didact

Just thought I'd let you guys know that the US publisher has scheduled The Great Ordeal for July/August 2008, so a good couple of months after the UK release. view post


Neuropath out in May 2008 posted 29 Jun 2007, 21:06 in Author Q & ANeuropath out in May 2008 by Mithfânion, Didact

In the UK anyway, it will be published by Orion. Synopsis here: [quote:vuluz6tb]Tom's life is not what it once was. His marriage to the beautiful Nora is on the rocks and he now sees his two young children only on her say so. His best friend - and best man - Neil has moved away to California to teach neurology and he barely sees him. He has one successful book - on human psychology - but he now wiles away the time trying to teach bored grad students things that they are often not equipped to understand. But that all changes when Neil comes back into his life. For it seems that his best friend was no teacher - he was working for the US government, cracking the minds of suspected terrorists. But now it is Neil himself that has cracked and gone AWOL - what's more he has left behind evidence that he has been employing his unique skills on civilians - obsessed with the idea that he can control the human brain. Thus begins a terrifying sequence of events as Neil starts to kidnap and mutilate people with a connection to Tom. He damages their brains selectively and then releases them - often leaving them mad. But it is only when he gets near his ultimate target does he reveal the full horror of his plan... [/quote:vuluz6tb] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neuropath-n-Sco ... 592&sr=1-1 view post


posted 17 Aug 2007, 22:08 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]The Aspect-Emperor by Mithfânion, Didact

Bad news guys, publisher has put the release for The Great Ordeal back even further to August 7, 2008. Major bummer. It would be nice if Scott would bother showing his face again and tell us what's up. view post


posted 07 Feb 2008, 17:02 in The Great Ordeal [supposed]When? by Mithfânion, Didact

Pat at the Fantasy Hotlist is the only one who had any info on the new release. Apparantly it is expected very late 2008 ( possibly in the US by Overlook) or January in the UK ( 15 January is their current date on Amazon UK). view post


Re: The metaphysics of Eärwa - some thoughts posted 09 Nov 2008, 21:11 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe metaphysics of Eärwa - some thoughts by Mithfânion, Didact

Thorsten Many good points made. Very illuminating, and you make quite a good case for most of your beliefs. [quote:2focgljo] 11 Chorae are embedded in his Carapace (TT, Gl. 'No-God'). The idea that this would be to guard some creature of flesh against sorcery is rather absurd - after all, we know that Chorae only work when touching skin![/quote:2focgljo] Would Chorae not also ward off a sorcerous attack on the No-God in his carapace? I took the chorea to be there for protective measures, to block any attacks even if by not being able to touch an assailant it doesn't outright kill them. Some questions posted elsewhere that I'd like to see your take on as well, if you'd like. 1) If the No-God is warded off from outside intervention, how is he to know what the Consult desires from him? 2) How can the No-God change the shape of The Outside? 3) What do you make of the fact that the only known weapon to him any harm is The Heron Spear, which is in fact an Inchoroi weapon? The Heron Spear being an original Inchoroi and thus non-sorcerous weapon would explain why it can harm the No-God, since the chorae cannot protect him from that. view post


Re: The metaphysics of Eärwa - some thoughts posted 16 Nov 2008, 23:11 in The Thousandfold ThoughtThe metaphysics of Eärwa - some thoughts by Mithfânion, Didact

Thorsten Since you've done such interesting essays here I thought I'd do a little in return. You may not have seen this. First, here is the prologue for the Judging Eye which Bakker has given out, if you'd like to read it. http://fantasyhotlist.blogspot.com/2008 ... kkers.html Secondly here are two interviews with Bakker that I think you might find interesting, both are fairly recent: http://fantasyhotlist.blogspot.com/2008 ... ker-q.html http://fantasyhotlist.blogspot.com/2008 ... rview.html In one of these Bakker says: [quote:3piu0x19][i:3piu0x19]Are there specific themes you wanted to explore in this second series?[/i:3piu0x19] Specifically, I’m interested in what it means to live in a world where value is objective - which is to say, to live in the kind of world our ancestors thought they lived in. Could you imagine, for instance, what it would mean to live in a world where, say, the social and spiritual inferiority of women was a fact like the atomic weight of uranium. Biblical Israel was such as world, as were many others. We have a hardwired predisposition to "naturalize" our values, to think what we value things is the way things are - it’s one of many liabilities we can chalk up to our stone-age brains. This is why fantasy worlds are our doubles, our psychology writ in geographical stone, and so worth exploring in their own right. Other than that, there’s a number of carry-over themes dealing with belief and faith as the levers of action. [/quote:3piu0x19] This seems to lend support to your beliefs about there actually being a God and him being influences by what people believe. Re; Mithfanion Indeed, I am a big fan of Tolkien, particularly the Silmarillion and chose that name for it's Elvish sound. view post


Re: *Spoilers* Favourite new character. posted 22 Feb 2009, 18:02 in The Judging Eye*Spoilers* Favourite new character. by Mithfânion, Didact

I'll go with Incariol. Massive character,very interesting indeed. Partly because of what he shows he can do, which leads to speculation about what else he could do given greater opponents, partly because of what he might reveal. Mimara was well characterized I thought, but I didn't find her that interesting. Kelmomas is also interesting, but very young still and has lots of growing to do as a character as well. I'm not sure why Scott decided to make him this young though. Seems like if he is going to play a major role in this trilogy you'd expect him to be older, even for a talent such as him. I agree that he seems more like his father than others. He is of The Few, which Kayutas is not for instance, and his other brother is insane. Serwa is hard to say sofar. Though it is intimated twice that Kellhus is inherently the most powerful of them all. Sorweel is not that interesting as a character sofar, though as a POC he is very good because he is our only window on the Great Ordeal. The Captain was intriguing throughout but I was disappointed by him in the whole Cil-Aujas section. view post


Re: *Spoilers* The gods must be crazy posted 22 Feb 2009, 18:02 in The Judging Eye*Spoilers* The gods must be crazy by Mithfânion, Didact

[quote:35sd1yu1]Damnation-shun, Cousin-sin. How-how? How-how-could-could-we-we-forget-get?" A sorrow flattens the glittering eyes. "Not I. I have never forgotten ..." From which I take two things: At one point, the Nonmen knew sorcerors (or slavers, it's not clear) were damned. They forgot, but the reality didn't change. Cleric worked, or works, for the Consult.[/quote:35sd1yu1] I thought this was explained by Mimara. The damnation of the Nonmen in Cil-Aujas happened because of thousands of years of breeding, using and torturing the Emwama, the first Men. They were literally damned because of this, which is why the bowels of Cil-Aujas have become a hell, a topos, a place where the fringes between Earwa and the Outside have been ripped apart, or at least very thin. view post


Re: Spoiler: Kelmonas' Voice posted 22 Feb 2009, 19:02 in The Judging EyeSpoiler: Kelmonas' Voice by Mithfânion, Didact

I thought the Strength was a referring to the inherent power of Kellhus, Kelmomas etc. Kellhus is the root of power and Kelmomas but a branch of it. He is inherently powerful, but no one is to the extent that his father is. According to the voice. As for who the voice is: 1) At one time when Kelmomas kills Samarmas, it asks why did you not kill me earlier. Suggestion 1 is Samarmas. 2) The second suggestion would be that it is one of the Inchoroi. The voice sounds very similar to the Synthese of the first trilogy. Somehow it manages to speak to Kellhus' son. 3) Kelmomas is a skin spy. Yes, a construct actually born of Esmenet, but still a skin spy. In corroboartion of this I made a link between Kelmomas killing Sharacinth and Maithanet consequently saying this might well have been the work of a skin spy. Maithanet never says things lightly, and usually he is correct. This is not proof of course that Kelmomas is a new sort of skin spy, but he might be. What's also remarakble is that he is said to have very good senses. He knows more, sees more, and especially smells far better than people. I thought these sort of advanced abilities were part and parcel for Skin Spies as well. All in all it would not surprise me Kelmomas is the Consult's ace in the hole. 4) Kelmomas is something else. There is something very curious about how and Samarmas were locked in an uninterrupted 3 year battle of wills where they kept staring at each other. This was explained, but the mental bond between the two was far stronger than what you normally see with twins. Why? What's the deal there. Clearly Kelmomas could be any number of these things, and that applies to the voice. All 4 options seem plausible. view post


Re: Kellhus vs Whiteluck -<SPOILERS>- posted 22 Feb 2009, 19:02 in The Judging EyeKellhus vs Whiteluck -<SPOILERS>- by Mithfânion, Didact

I read this and thought it was apparent that Sorweel is the White Luck Warrior. There has to be a reason for why is portrayed as an important character, as a POV. Moreso, he is with the Great Ordeal and thus actually in the position of becoming the White Luck Warrior in book 2 and confronting the Anasurimbor. Also, he is still doubtful of Kellhus even when others have long since fallen under his sway. Finally, he has been blessed by Yatwer herself, which seems to at least mean Kellhus canot read him ( though of course we do not know this, Kellhus might as well have pretended he could not see his true feelings, as Sorweel speculated himself). I think for story purposes though we may assume that Yatwer's blessing did really disguise his true emotion from Kellhus. However that is but a small step towards actual opposition to Kellhus, or even the unthinkabkle, a defeat of him. It would give him an edge, certainly. Will be interesting to see that play out in book 2. The only thing that makes me unsure it is Sorweel is what went before, the vague sections about a White Luck Warrior being born somewhere, the strange ritual with Psatma etc. I didn't get what that was all about, and Sorweel just seems like a far more plausible set-up as the White Luck. We already know him now, he has been establised as a character, and at the end we find out he is Yatwer's. view post


Re: Consensus so far? posted 22 Feb 2009, 19:02 in The Judging EyeConsensus so far? by Mithfânion, Didact

I thought it was very good, really enjoyed reading it, but I agree with the idea that this feels short, does not stand alone in any way and feels as it might have some more meat to it's bones. What is written is really good, but it feels a lot like starters in a restaurant. view post


Re: Kellhus vs Whiteluck -<SPOILERS>- posted 24 Feb 2009, 22:02 in The Judging EyeKellhus vs Whiteluck -<SPOILERS>- by Mithfânion, Didact

[quote:wivz8k19]As far as the White Luck warrior is concerned it seems that this individual will plague Esmenet and not Kellhus, i.e. the White Luck warrior is an insurgent of the Three-Seas[/quote:wivz8k19] I don't think this has been clearly indicated, if at all. The Yatwer cult is something Esmenet will have to deal with yes, but the White Luck Warrior himself might well be an opponent for Kellhus. The White Luck Warrior may be a direct threat to Esmenet as well, but Sorweel seems to be a really good choice for the WLW and he is in Kellhus' vicinity. If it's not Sorweel, basiclaly no one has any good guess at all as to who it might be, and it would be strange for such a major character to suddenly be introduced in book 2 IMO. view post


Re: *Spoilers* Traveller's identity posted 26 Feb 2009, 10:02 in The Judging Eye*Spoilers* Traveller's identity by Mithfânion, Didact

The glossary of TTT makes mention of one [b:pahsnphm]Nin-Ciljiras[/b:pahsnphm]. He is listed as "the last surviving King" yet in an entry close to it we also learn that Nin-Gilgiccas, Nonman King of Ishterebinth, is still alive. He was the one who was King there even during the First Apocalypse, and aided Celmomas in his Great Ordeal. We have never heard of this Nin-Ciljiras. He's not the dead king of Cil-Aujas that we meet, that ghost is given a different name. So perhaps there is a reason Nin-Ciljiras is listed in the TTT glossary. Incariol refers to the dead Cil-Aujas king as his cousin. This could be cousin as in "fellow Nonman" or as in "fellow King". view post


Re: Kellhus vs Whiteluck -<SPOILERS>- posted 26 Feb 2009, 10:02 in The Judging EyeKellhus vs Whiteluck -<SPOILERS>- by Mithfânion, Didact

Re-reading it, I think I now agree Sorweel is probably yet another manifestation of Yatwer's influence, possibly a pawn, instead of the actual White Luck Warrior, who is probably the person Psatma does the ritual with. view post


Small things in TJE that you liked posted 26 Feb 2009, 20:02 in The Judging EyeSmall things in TJE that you liked by Mithfânion, Didact

I thought TJE was a great book, the only downside of which was IMO that the plot progression in some areas was well below what I had expected for this 1st book and that the book is the shortest Bakker has written sofar, and that somne characters were expected to get a lot more screentime. On the other hand he did mention books 2 and 3 would each be longer than the one before in an interview with Pat. One of the things that I noticed in this book were little things that I enjoyed. Stuff that I hadn't thought about before. I'll name a few: * Maithanet. Somehow he seemed a much more sympathetic and honest character to me this time through. The descriptions of him continue to be of one very powerful individual, strong in physique, youthful and with an overwhelming voice. Bit of a shame we saw little of him as the story went on but anyway, I was really interested in him in this book. He seems to become a sort of hero to Esmenet, and she will need him if the Yatwer Cult becomes stronger, plus he is the one who suspects Kelmomas' true nature. * I believe it was in an interview where Bakker described what a world in which values are objective would be like, and what if the world actually conformed to beliefs and events. In this regard, we see in the PoN trilogy how the the Earth at the Mengedda plains literally throws up the bones of the slaughtered there because the massacre was too great to contain. I thought we saw another example of this in PoN, twice in fact. One is when Kellhus has translocated to Momemn and we are told that in his anger the surroundings seemed to literally darken and become shadowy. Now, this may just have been a trick of magic on Kellhus part, but maybe not. But the second example is at the start of the book when there is a description of the Sun literally accompanying Kellhus and the Great Ordeal. There is talk about how the North is so bleak and cold, and that the Sun is literally folowing Kellhus' path wherever he went. I thought that was a nice touch. * I loved the little statements Incariol made before the statue of Cujara Cinmoi. First he refers to Cujara as the one whose hand "[i:28wkdnyr]hath slain thousands[/i:28wkdnyr]" and then he says"[i:28wkdnyr] he whose voice hath cracked mountains![/i:28wkdnyr]". I thought that was just this very cool image, the immense majesty of the greatest Nonman ever, speaking words of sorcery and in doing so literally cracking mountains. Awesome. Anyone else have little stuff that you remarked upon which you enjoyed? view post


Re: Kellhus vs Whiteluck -<SPOILERS>- posted 03 Mar 2009, 19:03 in The Judging EyeKellhus vs Whiteluck -<SPOILERS>- by Mithfânion, Didact

The idea is that the man she has sex with with and to whom she diverts her experience, which ages him and makes him stronger, is The White Luck Warrior. You see him age, get stronger, this must the man of Scylvendi heritage and young father who we learn about. view post


Re: Dunyain machinations posted 04 Mar 2009, 18:03 in The Judging EyeDunyain machinations by Mithfânion, Didact

Anor [quote:1g88u98h]It's entirely conceivable that the Dunyain play no further part in the novels[/quote:1g88u98h] I don't think that's likely at all, given the current plotlines. Before we might just have speculated that Aspect Emperor and the books afterward would perhaps reveal to us in full, the Dunyain. Now that we have seen TJE, we know that we will most likley meet them. Athjeari [quote:1g88u98h]Who is making the decisions for the Dunyain (or who is in control, leading, or dominating them)? How is having Kellhus running around in Earwa any less dangerous to their seclusion than it was when Moenghus was alive? [/quote:1g88u98h] You seem to forget that the Dunyain did not send Kellhus out of their own volition. Moenghus plagued them with his dreams. This led the Dunyain, who as you may recall are unfamiliar with sorcery, to kill themselves and send out his son, Kellhus, so that Moenghus would stop harrassing them. This does not imply a master plan on their part. Their hand was forced. view post


Re: Is Kellus insane or not posted 04 Mar 2009, 18:03 in The Judging EyeIs Kellus insane or not by Mithfânion, Didact

WIll has the right of it I think, insofar as one can be right, one can only theorize for now. Kellhus clearly has had loads of time to ponder. That's an eternity to a mind such as his. I think his ultimate goal is exactly as he says it is, the defeat of the Consult, prevention of the Sec. Apocalypse. But he may have more goals we don't know about. I don't think he's mad. But then I read the What ccame before secition and did read that part about him going mad. He doesn't come across mad in the slightest to me, rather extremely rational and in control. I like Will's explanation for what "he went mad" actually means. view post


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